ottg Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 14 hours ago, Eyebrow said: new job is in the state sector. So the emphasis on performance bonusses is gone. I will earn a set salary with the security that that brings. And set hours. None of this 'after hours' if you want to prove your worth. But what if the lawyer is right? What if I am making a big mistake? Not everyone gets to work for the Government - well done! Let's look at all the advantages.... No performance bonus.... but instead 7.30 hours working day, 21 days leave, 14 days sick leave, study leave available, long service leave after 7 years Between 9.5 - 15% super depending on which Government agency. All the training that you may need for your next position or next level up! All paid! You can apply for any other job within Government in any state to widen your horizon for a secondment of 6-months Prove your worth......perhaps more important is to get stability and get your PR. You can apply for external activities working part time elsewhere You can apply to work flexi-time, half day or 3-days a week. What if......you have already done your what if analysis.... the rest is noise! Performance bonuses.....how many other people that was in your current position did receive their performance bonus - does your current boss keep his promises? An investment property provides more 'bonus' in the form of equity than most paid jobs without the stress!! Your biggest concern should be what are you going to do with all your spare time 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyebrow Posted December 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 On 7 December 2015 at 11:32 AM, SurferMan said: Eyebrow, I would be happy to slap this fool for you, free of charge. He wont call your new employer if he has 1/2 a brain cell. In Aus that is harassment and you can clean his bank account out on that. What an ass this fellow is. please share his details with me, I would like to serve him a knuckle sandwich with all the trimmings. Surferman, perhaps I can just tell you when he is on Channel 9 again, and you can look at him from the comfort of your own home. (Do you get ch 9 in your valley?) On 7 December 2015 at 9:11 PM, HadEnoughofJuju said: Eyebrow, this man sounds like an absolute master manipulator. You know from first hand experience he has broken promises in the past and how he treats his staff. Do not be fooled, a leopard never changes it's spots. He is trying everything in his power to make you feel guilty, confuse you and get his own way. Don't fall for it or belive anything he says. He may promise you the earth, moon and stars now to get you to stay but there is nothing stopping him from breaking those promises down the line. As I said, he's done it before, he'll do it again. If he does contact your new employer and bad mouths you, he will open himself to a slander suit that he has no chance of winning, no matter who he knows. And remember, immigration are not scared of anyone, they will nail anyone who tries to buck the system. You need to get out of that place. It is a toxic environment and very unhealthy for you and your family. Stop doubting yourself and your ability to bounce back. Your a professional with a uni degree and capable of far more than you give yourself credit for. Just my 2 cents worth. You are right HEOJJ. And of course you know even more of the backstory. It is toxic, my OH says he doesnt care about anything else anymore, other than me getting out of this environment. I think he is telling a fib, because I know how much he wants the visa and he probably wants that most of all, but good to know that he cares. On 7 December 2015 at 9:58 PM, Sunnyskies said: Definitely dentists are not annual leave days and if they knew why you took leave you can ask for it to be changed. Another reason to contact Fairwork. True. And I have sick leave. But we get this complicated payslip with 0.1 hours etc. And if I dont take payslip and compare with previous one and check exactly where hours have been taken, then they always take from annual leave and NOT sick leave. Then I have to go back and say you made a mistake. Then it is, ohhh, wonder who did that, maybe the accountant... But every time ffs? On 7 December 2015 at 10:24 PM, RYLC said: Woulda shoulda coulda!!! He's one of THOSE. All lies!!! He has never had any intention of paying you. This is just a carrot (and a poisoned carrot at that). He may as well tell you he has next week's lotto ticket for you. Do not look back at what might have been. He is painting a picture in hindsight to tempt you that he has never had any intention of seeing through. The bible says that those who look back will be turned to a pillar of salt. Leave him in the dust of the salt mine and do not look back!! He is acting illegally and once you are out and settled with PR you might choose to report him. For now keep that ace up your sleeve. From now on say as little as possible. Mara is right about the leave situation. Making you take annual leave instead of sick leave is wrong. I run payroll so I know for sure. How many more days do you have to work? Keep your sense of obligation in your pocket. He doesn't deserve any from you. If it's not long then seriously think about going to your GP and getting booked off for stress leave. Lots of people do this and it is considered grounds for sick leave. You just send the doctor's note into the employer and then never have to go back. Come on - do it for yourself and do it for all of us too who would love to see you stick it to him. I dare you! Just be done with him. Clients will survive. Think of this as your "bus" moment where he has to adapt to you not being around. You'll be doing him a "favour" in the long run.... Also true. I know how much he loves money. He never intended paying. And this "double salary" will only be backpaid if i stay on and only after a year. And my OH says if I stay on, he will know that I want to leave since I played my hand now, and try and get someone else and the moment he does, it is hasta la vista for me, and then job in Qld is gone like a scon! On 8 December 2015 at 11:43 AM, Chips said: Hold on Eyebrow all this will soon be a thing of the past, you are stronger than most of us here. Hope days will fly by and your notice will be over soon Thanks for the compliment. But I am super weak. I find it hard even to get out of bed in the mornings now. I am getting weird palpitations and it feels difficult to swallow at times. I dont recognise the person in the mirror. She is some old strange beaten down woman... 15 hours ago, RedPanda said: You know, really, if your boss was that concerned for you he'd have paid you what your work was worth right from the start. The sooner you talk to the Fair Work people, the better. Do it for the next person this guy is going to abuse. Yes. He should've dammit. But he knew he could get away with it. 14 hours ago, Mara said: Eyebrow... let me paint a little scenario for you... all you need to do is give it some thought! Boss is so controlling, that he cannot believe that you, who should be his total minion on a 457, have the guts to stand up to him. After everything he has done and abused you with I would not be at all surprised if.... With modern technology, he has drafted his own lawyer's letter, on a letterhead that he made up, and either he signed or had someone else sign... give me ten minutes I can design and write a letter for you about anything, from anyone, to anyone, on the most beautiful letterhead you can think of! My OH said the letter looked too scripted to him. So I am wondering... 12 hours ago, RYLC said: Too right!! I would be calling in every afternoon to escort you home as he wouldn't have the balls to harass you with an audience. Can hubby or anybody be a pick up service for you for the short time left there so that you can leave promptly? I would totally love and escort! (Never thought I'd say that! ) and think of all we chat about on the train trip home! 12 hours ago, emma.yenkanna said: Also just read RYLC's post. Can you not just leave?? What can he do? I would also maybe diarise everything that has happened to you since you were in his employ.He has treats many other employees like this in the past You did the right thing getting out of there just imagine if you had stayed. Can you not contact fairwork and just get advice? Maybe they will tell you to just quit. Nothing wrong in getting advice. The only thing I have to sell is my reputation. and by leaving I need just a couple of clients bad mouthing me online, and that reputation will be questioned by new clients who think the total amount of research one needs to do about the service that I provide is to google my name... Thats what is keeping me. Nothing else. 10 hours ago, rozellem said: LEAVE, you havd been too nice and South African about it. Nobpdy expects you to stand there and take it day in and out. Havd your husband come pick you up at work. Make an appointment with a Dr and get booked off for stress till you leave. It is in your rights to do so. Record everything, email the pig and ask for a copy of the fake letter for your records. Dont be alone with him at all. Start removing all your personal belongings now and ring Fair Work for some back up. Ps. You will have a MUCH better chance for making PR, if you work for the state and live rural than where you are now. At your current job you will only ever be a slave. My OH too says I am too nice and decent. ( Which is disappointing since I want him to say that I am wild and sexy. But that ship has sailed...) Someone at work also said : It is great that you are working a notice. To which I replied why? And she said because the previous guy rang on the Sunday night, and didnt come in on the monday, even though he had clients booked all day... 1 hour ago, Mara said: Pretty please Eyebrow, it is such a long time since I was in a position where I could tell someone to go to hell, and have them look forward to the journey! Can I come to work with you and have a very friendly chat with your boss? Ag pleaze Eyebrow let me take you to the Qld , all six seven of us, eight nine ten... we are all behind you... over 380 posts, all telling you to go... I know you are fearsom Mara, but trust me I have seen high profile clients that are totally throwing their toys because of some ill treatment they received at his hand, crumble in his presence. This guy is charisma personified. 59 minutes ago, ottg said: Not everyone gets to work for the Government - well done! Let's look at all the advantages.... No performance bonus.... but instead 7.30 hours working day, 21 days leave, 14 days sick leave, study leave available, long service leave after 7 years Between 9.5 - 15% super depending on which Government agency. All the training that you may need for your next position or next level up! All paid! You can apply for any other job within Government in any state to widen your horizon for a secondment of 6-months Prove your worth......perhaps more important is to get stability and get your PR. You can apply for external activities working part time elsewhere You can apply to work flexi-time, half day or 3-days a week. What if......you have already done your what if analysis.... the rest is noise! Performance bonuses.....how many other people that was in your current position did receive their performance bonus - does your current boss keep his promises? An investment property provides more 'bonus' in the form of equity than most paid jobs without the stress!! Your biggest concern should be what are you going to do with all your spare time Thanks ottg. As usual you are the voice of reason, analizing the facts I am giving and seemingly can read between the lines in a way that is scary! Thanks for your insights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreCarla Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 Wow! Sounds so surreal ? Eyebrow, you are strong, you are still hanging in there despite being under attack for more than a year - that's courage and strength! You are constantly in my thoughts and prayers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadEnoughofJuju Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 Remember that working in the public sector will mean that all the rules have to be followed by the employer and you will be protected by award rules in terms of work hours and salary, Fairwork Aus and WH&S legislation. Aussies don't like working overtime or doing more than is expected of them by their work description. Don't get me wrong, they're by no means lazy, they simply understand the work/life balance and appreciate it. Your ex boss knows the worth of what he is loosing and he knows how difficult it will be to replace that. No offense but once you have left that company, the clients you served will not remember the person but rather the product and the owner of that product and that's what they will bad mouth. In Aus bad mouthing someone in a public forum (don't freak out - you actually have to name them) amounts to defermation and that quickly turns to a law suit so Aussies (and generally everyone elses here) avoid that like the plague. You will be fine in the new job and in 6 months you will look back and wonder what all the fuss was about. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyebrow Posted December 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 Things are just getting worse at work. I have been offered more money, less hours, monetary help with immigration lawyer for visa. And I have declined it all. He had another lawyer's letter stating that unless I had written confirmation that the new employer is willing to sponsor me for PR, then this is an ill considered move. I am sooo stressed. She is a very prominent immigration lawyer. I do not have written reassurance from the new employer. I asked HR, but the lady said it is not policy to offer anything like that in writing. I also asked my new line manager if they will sponsor me. He thought that was funny, and said they have been trying to recruit someone so long, that I would have to be grossly incompetent for them NOT to do it... So assurances, but not in writing... So now I am being largely ignored. Walks past me without acknowledging my presence, and greeting people next to me super friendly. He also offered the girl that works with me at the same level, double her salary. And he told her that he is working on her visa application as it is his top priority. This was in front of everyone, including me, in the staff room. She is so happy. She has been thanking me every chance she gets. She has even asked for a photo of me to put on their wall so that her family can remember who they have to thank for this good luck! (Must be a Sri Lankan thing ) He has, however told the support staff that due to me leaving, the turnover of the company will drop so drastically, that he can't afford to pay so many salaries and that people will have to be made redundant. He is not sure who and how many yet. So there is widespread panic! People have been approaching me everywhere, even in the ladies' toilet, asking me to stay. One woman - someone I dont know that well - even said that since he is willing to sponsor me and help with lawyer fees, didnt I think that I am a bit ungrateful for not accepting it? I feel devastated that everyone is upset with me. I have always thought of myself as not a bad person. Sure I am quiet and reserved. And I dont think that I am the greatest or anything, but I do go out of my way to not hurt people on purpose. I mean, peoples' lives are hard enough, to not personally be responsible for burdening it further? (You know, Karma and all that? Not that that has worked out well for me. Karma must hate me!) Anyway he wants to meet again next week. To address "unresolved issues". Goodness knows what they are... Not looking forward to that. Oh, and when we got here first last year, we were sleeping on the floor on inflatable mattresses (which kept deflating all night and your back was always cold!) He then said that he had 2 beds that I could have. We went round to his "house" (mansion worth $6,7 mil - I looked it up on propertyvalue.com.au) and he dragged 2 single mattresses and their frames out of the garage and we transported it home. I cleaned it and vacuumed off most of the spider carcasses and the odd live one!! And voila we have beds for the kids. Now he tells that since I am leaving, he wants those beds back, in mint condition, delivered to his door. Apparently "can have"meant "can borrow"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RYLC Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) He is a narcicist Eyebrow. Google for what the traits are and it will be like looking in a mirror at him. As as for the beds, I am speechless. I will gladly send you money for new ones if it comes to that. I think that there are quite a few of us who would like to send you some financial help to get out of there ASAP. Do not return the beds. It is not in writing so just ignore him. Have you you noticed with him how he promise but doesn't deliver, uses emotional blackmail to divide and conquer, intimidates people by threatening to withdraw support for visas. These are the methods of a tyrant. DO NOT TAKE ON HIS ATTEMPTS TO BLAME YOU. Tell colleagues that he is a wealthy man and can choose to run his business as he wants. Tell all of them that Fairwork would be VERY interested in his blatant disregard for labor laws. Tell staff that they are deluding themselves if they think that the success of the business hinges on your input. After all you are just a "lowly" worker same as them. Edited December 12, 2015 by RYLC 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RYLC Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 How many more weeks do you have to be here? And have you seen your doctor yet for stress leave? Just do it Eyebrow. For your sanity. It is allowed and a very common thing to do. If you attend work on Tuesday please arrange a support person to be with you. Your hubby? Somebody from this forum who can stand by you. @Mara are you free on Tuesday? Time to duck and run Eyebrow. This is Australia. I promise that this will not ruin your reputation. Australia dos not work that way. Ask other long timers on here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RYLC Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 Please please please go to the doctor and get booked off for stress. Then start moving early and change your mobile number. Im dead serious about sending money too. It would be a gift to me to be able to help you. I know that is hard to understand but I'm enraged at your treatment and just want you out of there. I worked for a tyrant like him but only one day a week and it was hell. I've heard all his type of threats before and they are empty manipulative BS. If you were my sister I would be at your place helping you pack after I'd finished reporting to Fairwork. Stress leave will save you. It is the answer to your prayers. Just. Do. It. Please. Then you don't have to go back at all. He has no morals (read up on narcicists) and he is intent in grinding you into the ground. Leave before he can do anything more. Doesnt Christmas / New Year in your new home sound good? Breeze on your face. Free at last? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 I actually feel stressed after I read your posts Eyebrow and I am not the one going through this turmoil....I feel like I am. It just makes me so angry. I wish I could just storm into your office, give your boss a piece of my mind and foot? and then drag you away from that toxic environment. If colleagues around you cannot see your boss for the creature that he is, that is not your fault, nor is it your fault that you were placed in this predicament. You were basically pushed into this by unfair treatment. If he had stuck to his promises and treated you well when you started then you wouldn't be in this position now. There are people in this life who are fantastic at making you believe that you are at fault. They are experts at it. Don't let him succeed. I am not sure if I could take anymore of this man's rubbish....infact I am certain of it. I would have quit a long time ago. Get the hell out of there before your health suffers as a result. You've got a new job to go to and a new start awaiting you...don't waste another day in that mans presence. Quit!!!! Loyalty is a great quality but be loyal to yourself. At the end of the day you have to look after yourself first. Please you will feel so much better and for the next few weeks enjoy time with your family. I would have made Friday my last day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DXB2OZ Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 Eyebrow, you can turn something so truly awful into something incredible for someone else. Having lodged a complaint with the Victoria Law Association (or whatever they are called), I can tell you it is really easy. I have also heard that Fairwork is exactly that - about fair work. Please, please, please, please, either lodge something now or after you leave but stop this maniacal, power hungry devil from inflicting this hell onto anyone else, as you know he will do. Any one of us would be happy to help, most of us would probably jump at the chance to do something to stop this man from continuing to do this to you and stop him from doing it to anyone else. personally, I would suggest you contact a lawyer of your own as you probably have grounds to sue him. You can definitely ensure that he will lose his status as a spouse for 457s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) I am always available for Eyebrow... she just needs to let me know, I have PM'd her my mobile number. I am with everyone else on this, do not let him play with your mind and I like the idea of telling the other staff the story of "how can one lowly worker, like me, leaving cause him to have to pay off staff" that is just ludicrous! You would be very wise to go to the GP, tell him if you have to go back into that workplace the stress will absolutely just kill you! PLEASE DO IT STILL THIS WEEKEND! Edited December 13, 2015 by Mara 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cole Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 This man makes more mistakes than I can throw a stick at. If he tells everyone that you are the linchpin in his organisation, and that things will fall apart if you leave, he is also essentially telling his other staff that he won't be able to fulfil his promises of aiding with PR once you leave, and crucially, he is telling them all that they'd all better start looking for other jobs because his company will go under. Oops, bet he didn't think that one through.... So I guess, you're not the only one who's going to be leaving his company soon, because if I was working there, you can bet that I'd be job hunting. Not only that, but if I worked there and you didn't leave, my concern (as a fellow employee) would be that he would retract the offer of PR for the Sri Lankan family and offer it to you instead (or anyone else that might work harder/be in his good books over me), and that my job would be less secure because it would always hinge on one person. He has probably shaken everyone's faith in employment for his firm, and no amount of charisma will fix that doubt. IF you stayed, you can be sure that others would be jumping ship in the coming months, pressure to perform would mount on the people left behind, because he would say that he can't afford to hire replacements, and life would become even tougher than it has been up to this point. I doubt very much that anybody who has built up enough of a business to accrue assets like that house, would let his reign of terror end because of the threat of one person leaving. Go to the GP Eyebrow, and get that letter and sleep in on Monday, because not only will he be against you, but your colleagues will start to resent you for leaving them too, and they need to see that the world will not end once you're gone, BUT until you've left, they will think that it will, and take it out on you. And that will bring him great satisfaction, and you a lot of misery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cole Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 And I agree - get a new cell number as soon as you can, and don't give the number to any of your current colleagues. From the time you send that doctor's note, switch off your old number for the last time. And jump on the kids' beds, because you can. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadEnoughofJuju Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) Promising to double one workers salary and make others redundant is a contridiction in itself. Knowing a bit more than most I'm going to spell it out for you. You are under no contractual obligation to keep meeting with him. He is bullying you into feeling guilty and at the moment it seems to be working. He's a liar, theif, cheat and master manipulator who only has his best interests at heart. As I said before, you are directly affecting his bottom line and he does not like that one bit. He will do whatever he feels necessary to get his own way regardless of who he tramples on to get it. If your Sri Lankan co worker believes that he is going to keep his word and double her salary when you're gone, she's living in a dream world and is naive. What happens to his employees is NOT your responsibility and It's extremely selfish and inconsiderate of them to expect you to stay for their benifit. They all have the choice to either continue working for him or leave. It's his responsibility to look after them, not yours. Getting an immigration lawyer to write letters and scare you into staying is intimidation and bullying and I'm sure that MARA and the department of immigration would take a dim view on that type of conduct. You have the right to refuse any meeting that is not directly related to your work responsibilities. The worst he can do is fire you and you've already resigned. You already have a new position to go to. You need to leave that place behind and stop second guessing your decision. No amount of money in the world will make you happy while you're working for him. Edited December 12, 2015 by HadEnoughofJuju 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 I too agree with the advice from Weddingtog and HEOJ, you really should not return to work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadEnoughofJuju Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) I forgot to mention that there are delivery services that will accept payment from the recipient on delivery. Find the most expensive one and arrange to have the beds delivered to his office (NOT HIS HOME) and make sure you do it after you have left. I would also suggest not returning to work the day after payday. There's a slim chance he's going to pay you for those 15 days in Jan. Edited December 12, 2015 by HadEnoughofJuju 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DXB2OZ Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 Love it!!! And so true. That final pay will be the one with all the "deductions" and you will need to fight from Queensland. Arrange the delivery (HEOJJ! Awesome idea!!), get your pay and leave. Contact Fairwork and explain you are not going back because of emotional abuse. You will be completely within your rights, what he is doing amounts to a campaign of abuse but I would suggest one more pay check before you walk. If there is any delay whatsoever on that final pay check, walk. Actually don't walk, run. What a tosser!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottg Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 Dont want to sound like a keyboard warrior and suggest doing this and that without having all the facts and without being in your shoes...... it must be tough! Moving requires lots of extra finances and perhaps a person requires every cent to assist and from there the desire to stick around till the very last moment. However everyone already pointed out the motives of this guy and now he also wanted his beds back while staying in a +$5m mansion. Wonder how the rest of society will view this high profile business mentor, often appearing on TV, while preying on vulnerable people. -Said this before - Make sure that you document EVERYTHING -Get your self a small personal voice recorder. Make sure that you record all conversations and advice him before the time that it will get recorded. -Dont sign anything but take a copy and say you want to review it with your advisory team first (see next point) - His unfinished business will probably be to make you sign a non-disclosure agreement and a waiver of all your rights regarding his internal business operations and customers ( and read between the lines with that his scrupulous dealings and treatment of employees). Why will he do that? Because he knows himself. -Check that your super has been paid dutifully in your personal superannuation - every sent. If not send an email asap and request that. - Calculate all outstanding salaries/bonuses etc document that and send him an email requesting full payment. Send an email asap and request that. -Working for local/state/federal government requires a good/clean record; so stay clear from this guy - dont take him on. Why? People like these meet their match often later in life - that is when you will need all your documented stuff! Make sure 1-2 colleagues can get hold of you in future! - Then how do I transition from a 457 visa to permanent residence? http://www.4-corners.com.au/blog/bid/295107/How-do-I-transition-from-a-457-visa-to-permanent-residence It seems like just a formality - all the boxes will get ticked with your new sponsor. Government will honor all agreements... always!! -Now go and take that stress leave. This is Australia, some people get fired through a SMS or a pink slip together their last pay cheque when employed by small businesses. Must admit a few alternative ideas did cross my mind while I dont say you must follow it but perhaps I can share that: When you deliver the beds in person invite Channel 9 and all the other TV channels to witness this momentous occasion...make sure they have the details. Perhaps the TV station can setup an appointment on your behalf for the delivery just contact one of their reporters for this exclusion story. They may even pay for it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 4 hours ago, ottg said: Must admit a few alternative ideas did cross my mind while I dont say you must follow it but perhaps I can share that: When you deliver the beds in person invite Channel 9 and all the other TV channels to witness this momentous occasion...make sure they have the details. Perhaps the TV station can setup an appointment on your behalf for the delivery just contact one of their reporters for this exclusion story. They may even pay for it! Sheesh Ottg... I just loved this paragraph, if I could have, I would have given it 100 likes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyebrow Posted December 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 Oh, and I am being audited by SARS as well. Just to add to the fun. HEOJJ you are an evil mastermind! Ottg the TV idea is classic. You guys made me laugh. Even though things are falling apart. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFreshStart Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 (edited) On 12 December 2015 at 5:19 PM, Mara said: You would be very wise to go to the GP, tell him you are suicidal if you must, but tell him if you have to go back into that workplace the stress will absolutely just kill you! PLEASE DO IT STILL THIS WEEKEND! Mara, I understand that this terrible situation is heated, we ALL feel for Eyebrow, but that is TERRIBLE advice! Suicide is no joke, even the mention of it. Eyebrow, as Mara (and others) have shared, please see your Dr. explain you're stressed, experiencing anxiety and panic attacks, you exhibit ALL these signs, but unless you are ACTUALLY suicidal, don't mention the word (but if you have thoughts then PLEASE speak up). These things go on record and you are legally obligated to mention them, it affects things like your insurance claims, life policies and makes thing, well, complicated. You will go under review for 12-24 months when switching providers and if you pass away in that time and if anything is suspicious or deemed of non natural causes you run the risk of loosing your life cover and your family may not see a cent. Again, see a Dr. explain your syptoms, allow them to evaluate you and prescribe medication and rest if needed, but going straight to self classed 'sucidial' will set off a chain of events that may bring it's own set of problems for YEARS to come. Cheers Matt Edited December 13, 2015 by AFreshStart 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 Matt, Eyebrow, my sincere apologies, I did not realise what repercussions there could be, I have modified my post and left the quote in Matt's post, as it was. Again, my apologies. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyebrow Posted December 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Mara , dont worry. Your heart is in a good place. I wont do anything irresponsible or blame anyone on the forum. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyebrow Posted December 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 It is strange... Ever since I started this job, there was always talk by most of the people at work about leaving. Days when they mentioned it and days when it was threatened. Since it has become known that I am leaving, there has been surprise that I actually am! It is clear that I don't understand people. At all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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