As julle die harde pad wil vat in Aus (2)

[Guest Mauritz]

Ons geniet Wes Aus baie oppie trippie - laat my baie dink aan Suidwes op 'n manier. Die see is vrek koud en vol vis. Semi-woestyn sommige plekke - lekker klipkoppies hier en daar ens.

Ons gaan heeltemal suid deur Albany, deur Esperance om die Nullarbor te cross na Suid Australia toe. Dit is winter en hoe verder ons suid gaan hoe meer miserable raak die weer. Die dat ons besluit om Kalgoorlie toe ge gaan, terug Perth toe en dan noord om Aus. Sien - geen beplanning nie, geen worries nie, gaan net waarheen die wind ons waai.

Hoe nader ons aan Kalgoorlie kom hoe meer Aborigines sien ons in die klein dorpies - ongelukkig nie 'n pretty sight nie - lyk baie soos daardie verdwaalde dorpies in Afrika. Stringe brandmaer honde, kaalvoet maer swart kinders wat wild in die strate rondhardloop. Strate vuil en verwaarloos. Baie, baie dronkes - om die waarheid te s^e ons het erger scenes gesien as wat ek al in Afrika gesien het. Hierdie Aborigines het geld daar, swem sommer daarin - lyk nie of hulle werk nie, maar ry rond in splinternuwe Toyota Landcruisers. Kry baie geld van government.

My hare staan sommer regop - heeltemal 'n ander scene as verder noord in Perth, Albany ens.

Kalgoorlie is vol h*erhuise as ek dit so kan stel - om al die myners se geld weer weg te vat. Elke tweede huis is 'n bordeel en elke hotel/pub adverteer hulle kwaai katte. Ek wil gaan kyk, maar vroulief wil niks weet nie.

By een van die petrolstasies langs die pad wil ons die ruskamers gebruik - dit is gesluit - jy moet soos sommige plekke in ou Afrika vir die sleutels gaan vra - ons almal weet mos hoekom. Nicolette kry 'n sleutel en sluit die toilets oop - volgende oomblik storm 4 Abbo 'meisies' verby haar die toilets in. Volgende oomblik storm die 6ft bebaarde wit eienaar van die vulstasie in - gryp hulle aan die nekkies en gooi hulle letterlik by die deur uit - al vloekende. Nicolette is heeltemal geskok. Toe ek die sleutels gaan teruggee, vrae ek so ewe onskuldig hoekom hulle nie die plekke oophou nie. Ek sal nie sy antwoord in Afrikaans vertaal nie - sal enige stoere AWB ondersteuner laat bloos soos 'n oorverhitte stoomtrein.

Ons gaan deur 'n klein dorpie, daar is 'n publieke toilet en daar staan 'n lang ry voor die ou geboutjie. Wragtig dink ek by myself daar sit 'n AWB boer agter 'n tafeltjie en mense gee vir hom iets dan gaan hulle in die geboutjie in. Die dorpie is lekker swart, maar almal in die ry is so wit soos sneeu. Ek kyk die storie soos 'n lekker mal kat uit 'n swarthaakbos uit.

Daar is nie 'n ander toilet in sig nie, so ons val ook in die ry. Ek kan nie wag om met die AWB man te gesels nie. Julle sal my nie glo nie - hy het swart boots aan, 'n kakie langbroek en 'n kaki langmouhemp en 'n knuppel aan sy belt. Ek glo vas hy is Oom Eugene Terblance se jongste suigeling wat wegkruip in WA.

Toe dit my beurt is vrae ek weer so vroom hoekom ons moet betaal om die toilets te gebruik. Hy erken my aksent en vra vir my: What do you think, you should know - it is to keep the $%#@ bastards out.

Ek dink toe so by myself - waaroor het al die Aussies so gemoan oor apartheid in SA.

In 'n ander dorpie wil ons iets een aand gaan drink by die pub - wat 'n gemors - honnerde dronk Aborigines, ons draai amper om en gaan terug. Toe sien ek daar is twee ingange een vir die wittes en een vir die swartes - kry julle die picture???

As ons so toer en vashaak op plekke en met die Aussies gesels en hulle hoor ons is van Suid Afrika, dan moet julle hoor wat kom alles uit. Klink dan of hulle vir jare totaal en al constipated was en nou skielik het verbal diarrhoea hulle oorval - alles moet uit. Hulle onderdruk baie hulle gevoelens, omdat 'n mens mos so polities korrek moet wees. Gee hulle 'n kans, gooi so 'n woordjie of twee in om hulle lekker warm om die kiewe te kry - dan sien jy die ander sy van Aus.

Verstaan dit nog steeds nie lekker nie - jy moet hard en lank soek in meeste plekke om 'n donker vel te sien. Wonder partykeer wat hulle sou gedoen het as daar 180 miljoen Aborigines in die land was - om appels met appels te vergelyk.

Sluit 'n pic in van een van hierdie mistroostige vuil dorpies wat my amper laat voel het asof ek terug in Afrika was. Sien die rifrug is vas - hy het mos daai boerehond gene - so ons maak hom maar vas.

Vir meer oor die Kalgoorlie brothels: http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/stories/s276738.htm

Edited September 2, 2007 by Mauritz

[Survival]

Ek dink toe so by myself - waaroor het al die Aussies so gemoan oor apartheid in SA.

In 'n ander dorpie wil ons iets een aand gaan drink by die pub - wat 'n gemors - honnerde dronk Aborigines, ons draai amper om en gaan terug. Toe sien ek daar is twee ingange een vir die wittes en een vir die swartes - kry julle die picture???

Hi Mauritz, jy raak nou aan iets hier wat my meer as een keer al laat dink het aan!!!

Die een vraag wat enige Aussie jou altyd vra is hoekom jy na Aus toe gekom het. "Crime and political reasons" is altyd my antwoord. Jy sal dan twee groepe kry die wat net stil bly op jou antwoord en die ander wat dan sal reply "but what have you done with them during apartheid, can you blame them for what is happening now back in SA...". (Wel ek is 31 nou so apartheid was voor my tyd)

Ek onthou die eenkeer waar ek nie stil kon bly op die soort reply nie en terug geantwoord het "...the only difference between the whites in South Africa and the whites originally moved to AUS was that the Piet Retief tried to negotiate while the other massacacres the indigenous people..."

Ongelukkig werk DEMOKRASIE nie vir minderheidsgroepe nie en dit is hoekom ek nou hier in AUS sit!!!!

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Some Australian history:

1800s

The Black War refers to a period of intermittent conflict between the British colonists and Aborigines in Van Diemen's Land (now Tasmania) in the early years of the 1800s. The conflict has been described as a genocide resulting in the decimation of the full-blood Tasmanian Aboriginal population, though there are presently many thousands of individuals with degrees of Tasmanian Aboriginal background. The culmination of this period was the forcible removal of the survivors, in the 1830s, to Flinders Island in Bass Strait. The specially built settlement was not suitable, with terrible living conditions and many died from disease introduced by Europeans. Later they were moved to a settlement at Oyster Cove south of Hobart. Some of the descendants of the Tasmanian Aborigines still live on Flinders Island and nearby Cape Barren Island. [1]

[edit] 1820s

1824 Bathurst massacre: Following the killing of seven Europeans by Aboriginal people around Bathurst, New South Wales, martial law was declared and around 100 Aboriginal people killed. [2] [3]

[edit] 1830s

1830 Fremantle, Western Australia,: The first official 'punishment raid' on Aboriginal people in Western Australia, led by Captain Irwin took place in May 1830. A detachment of soldiers led by Irwin attacked an Aboriginal encampment north of Fremantle in the belief that it contained men who had 'broken into and plundered the house of a man called Paton' and killed some poultry. Paton had called together a number of settlers who, armed with muskets, set after the Aborigines and came upon them not far from the home. 'The tall savage who appeared the Chief showed unequivocal gestures of defiance and contempt' and was accordingly shot. Irwin stated, "This daring and hostile conduct of the natives induced me to seize the opportunity to make them sensible to our superiority, by showing how severely we could retaliate their aggression." In actions that followed over the next few days, more Aborigines were killed and wounded. [4] [5]

1833-34 Convincing Ground massacre (Gunditjmara): On the shore near Portland, Victoria was one of the largest recorded massacres in Victoria. Whalers and the local Kilcarer Gunditjmara people disputed rights to a beached whale carcass. [6]

1834: Battle of Pinjarra, Western Australia: Official records state 14 Aboriginal people killed, but other accounts put the figure much higher [7] [8]

1838 Myall Creek massacre - 9 June: 28 people killed at Myall Creek near Inverell, New South Wales. This was the first Aboriginal massacre for which European settlers were tried. Eleven men were charged with murder but acquitted. A new trial was held and the seven men charged with the murder of one Aboriginal child. They were found guilty and hanged.

1838 Waterloo Creek massacre: A Sydney mounted police detachment attacked an encampment of Kamilaroi people at a place called Waterloo Creek in remote bushland. [9]

1838 Benalla (Benalta run - musk duck): Grantville Stapylton named the river 'Broken'. In April of that year a party of some 18 men, in the employ of George Faithful and William Faithfull, were searching out new land to the south of Wangaratta. Then, in the vicinity of, or possibly on, the present townsite of Benalla, it is alleged that a large number of Aborigines attacked the party's camp. At least one Koori and somewhere between eight and thirteen Europeans died in what became known as the Faithfull Massacre. Local reprisals lasted a number of years, resulting in the deaths of up to 100 Aborigines. The reason for the attack is unclear although some sources claim that the men took shots at local Aborigines and generally provoked them. It also seems they were camping on a hunting ground

This "hunting ground" would have been a ceremonial ground probably called a 'Kangaroo ground'. Hunting grounds were all over so not something that would instigate an attack. The colonial government decided to "open up" the lands south of Yass after the Faithful Massacre and bring them under British rule. This was as much to try and protect the Aboriginal people from reprisals as to open up new lands for the colonists. The Aboriginal people were (supposedly) protected under British law.

1830s - 1840s Wiradjuri Wars: Clashes between European settlers and Wiradjuri were very violent, particularly around the Murrumbidgee. The loss of fishing grounds and significant sites and the killing of Aboriginal people was retaliated through attacks with spears on cattle and stockmen. In the 1850s there were still corroborees around Mudgee but there were fewer clashes. Known cermeony continued at the Murrumbidgee into the 1890s. European settlement had taken hold and the Aboriginal population was in temporary decline.

[edit] 1840s

1840-1850 Gippsland massacres of the Gunai people in East Gippsland, Victoria, Australia in response to their resistance to European settlement on their land. The real death toll is unclear as few records exist or were made at the time, from available evidence (letters and diaries), it appears[10]:

1840 - Nuntin- unknown number killed by Angus McMillan's men

1840 - Boney Point - "Angus McMillan and his men took a heavy toll of Aboriginal lives"

1841 - Butchers Creek - 30-35 shot by Angus McMillan's men

1841 - Maffra - unknown number shot by Angus McMillan's men

1842 - Skull Creek - unknown number killed

1842 - Bruthen Creek - "hundreds killed"

1843 - Warrigal Creek - between 60 and 180 shot by Angus McMillan and his men

1844 - Maffra - unknown number killed

1846 - South Gippsland - 14 killed

1846 - Snowy River - 8 killed by Captain Dana and the Aboriginal Police

1846-47 - Central Gippsland - 50 or more shot by armed party hunting for a white woman supposedly held by Aborigines; no such woman was ever found.

1850 - East Gippsland - 15-20 killed

1850 - Murrindal - 16 poisoned

1841 Wonnerup Massacre: George Layman was speared by a Wardandi (from Wardan = Ocean) man, Gaywer, at Wonnerup House, Capel, Western Australia when he refused to release an Aboriginal woman held at the house. This led to the Wonnerup Massacre where white settlers rode abreast through the tuart forest killing over 250 people on their tribal land. The dead are reputed to be buried at Ludlow Forest, currently being mined for mineral sands by Cable Sands. [11]

1841 Rufus River Massacre - August: 35 Maraura people killed in a two-day conflict with a number of police and volunteers from Adelaide after sheep and cattle were stolen and several months of violent tension.

1842 Deen Maar - Eumerella Wars took place over 20 years in the mid-1800s. The remains of people involved in the conflict are at Deen Maar.

1846 Blanket Bay, Cape Otway, Victoria - July: Rape and killing of numerous local Katabanut (king parrot) people during an expedition of Native Police dispatched by Captain Foster Fyans.

[edit] 1850s-1890s

1864 Richmond River massacre - January: 100 people killed at Richmond River, New South Wales.

1865 The La Grange expedition was a search expedition carried out in the vicinity of La Grange Bay in the Kimberley region of Western Australia led by Maitland Brown that led to the death of up to 20 Aboriginal people. The expedition has been celebrated with the Explorers' Monument in Fremantle, Western Australia.

1868 Flying Foam massacre, Dampier Archipelago, Western Australia. Following the killing of two police and two settlers by local Yaburara people, two parties of settlers from the Roebourne area, led by prominent pastoralists Alexander McRae and John Withnell, killed an unknown number of Yaburara. Estimates of the number of dead range from 20 to 150.[12]

1874 Barrow Creek Massacre - February (NT): Mounted Constable Samuel Gason arrived at Barrow Creek and a police station was opened. Eight days later a group of Kaytetye men attacked the station, either in retaltiation for treatment of Kaytetye women, the closing off of their only water source, or both. Two white men were killed and one wounded. Samuel Gason mounted a large police hunt against the Kaytetye resulting in the killing of many Aboriginal men, women and children - some say up to 90. [13] Skull Creek takes its name from the bleached bones found there long after [14].

1880s-90s Arnhem Land: Series of skirmishes and "wars" between Yolngu and whites. Several massacres at Florida Station [1]. Richard Trudgen[2] also writes of several massacres in this area, including an incident where Yolngu were fed poisoned horsemeat after they killed and ate some cattle (under their law, it was their land and they had an inalienable right to eat animals on their land). Many people died as a result of that incident. Trudgen also talks of a massacre ten years later after some Yolngu took a small amount of barbed wire from a huge roll to build fishing spears. Men, women and children were chased by mounted police and men from the Eastern and African Cold Storage Company and shot.

1884 Battle Mountain: 200 Kalkadoon people killed near Mount Isa, Queensland after a Chinese shepherd had been murdered.

1887 Halls Creek Western Australia. Mary Durack suggests there was a conspiracy of silence about the massacres of Djara, Konejandi and Walmadjari peoples about attacks on Aborigines by white gold-miners, Aboriginal reprisals and consequent massacres at this time. John Durack was speared, which led to a local massacre in the Kimberley.

1890 Speewah Massacre, Qld: Early settler, John Atherton, took revenge on the Djabugay by sending in native troopers to avenge the killing of a bullock. Other unconfirmed reports of similar atrocities occurred locally. [15]

1890-1920 Kimberley region - The Killing Times - East Kimberleys: About half of the Kimberley Aboriginal people massacred as a result of a number of reprisals for cattle spearing, and payback killings of European settlers.

[edit] 1900s

Kimberley region - The Killing Times - 1890-1920: The massacres listed below have been depicted in modern Australian Aboriginal art from the Warmun/Turkey Creek community who were members of the tribes affected. Oral history of the massacres were passed down and artists such as the late Rover Thomas have depicted the massacres.

1906-7 Canning Stock Route: an unrecorded number of Aboriginal men and women were raped and massacred when Mardu people were captured and tortured to serve as 'guides' and reveal the sources of water in the area after being 'run down' by men on horseback, restrained by heavy chains 24 hours a day, and tied to trees at night. In retaliation for this treatment, plus the party's interference with traditional wells, and the theft of cultural artefacts, Aborigines destroyed some of Canning's wells, and stole from and occasionally killed white travellers. A Royal Commission in 1908, exonerated Canning, after an appearance by Kimberley Explorer and Lord Mayor of Perth, Alexander Forrest claimed that all explorers had acted in such a fashion. [16]

1920s Mistake Creek: Seven Kija people were alleged to have been killed by men under the control of a Constable Rhatigan, at Mistake Creek, East Kimberley. The massacre was as a reprisal for allegedly killing Rhadigan's cow, however, the cow was found alive after the massacre had already taken place. Rhatigan was arrested for wilful murder, but the charges were dropped, for lack of evidence. [17] The historian Keith Windschuttle disputes the version put forward by former Governor-General of Australia, William Deane, in November 2002. Windschuttle found the massacre took place on March 30, 1915, not in the 1930s, and was not a reprisal attack by whites over a cow, but "an internal feud between Aboriginal station hands" over a woman. "No Europeans were responsible. There was no dispute over a stolen cow, and it had nothing to do with theories about terra nullius or of Aborigines being subhuman."[18]. However, members of the Gija tribe, from the Warmun (Turkey Creek) community have depicted the massacre in their artworks (see Warmun Art.

[edit] 1920s

1924 Bedford Downs massacre: a group of Kija or Gija men were jailed for spearing a bullock. On release from jail they had to walk the 200 kilometers back to Bedford Downs, where they were set to work to cut the wood that was later used to burn their bodies. Once the work was finished they were fed Strychnine, and the bodies were burned. [19] This massacre has been depicted in artworks by members of the Gija tribe.

1926 Forrest River massacre in the East Kimberleys): in May 1926, Fred Hay, a pastoralist, was speared and killed by an Aboriginal man, Lumbia. A police patrol led by Constables James St Jack and Denis Regan left Wyndham on June 1, to hunt for the killer, and in the first week of July, Lumbia, the accused man, was brought into Wyndham. In the months that followed rumours circulated of a massacre by the police party. The Rev. Ernest Gribble of Forrest River Mission (later Oombulgurri) alleged that 30 people had been killed by the police party. A Royal Commission, conducted by G. T. Wood sent an evidence-gathering party and heard evidence regarding Gribble's allegations. The Royal Commission found that 11 people had been massacred and the bodies burned. In May 1927, St Jack and Regan were charged with the murder of Boondung, one of the 11. However, at a preliminary hearing, Magistrate Kidson found there was insufficient evidence to proceed to trial. Subsequent attacks on the credibility of Gribble led to his departure from the region. [20] In 1999, journalist Rod Moran, published a book Massacre Myth which reviewed the evidence and found that the massacre was a fabrication by Gribble.[citation needed] No eyewitnesses or survivors were ever found. Gribble had a history of making false claims about mistreatment of Aborigines and was known to have had a history of mental illness. The evidence-gathering party found no graves. All of the bones found either could not be identified as human or were animal bones. Of the people listed as missing by Gribble, Moran was able to account for all but one as not being killed in the massacre, from mission and police records. One woman had been killed by her husband before the Hay killing and another was listed twice.

1928 Coniston massacre: A WW1 veteran shot 32 Aborigines at Coniston in the Northern Territory after a white dingo trapper and station owner were attacked by Aborigines. A survivor of the massacre, Billy Stockman Tjapaltjarri, later became part of the first generation of Papunya painting men. Billy Stockman was saved by his mother who put him in a coolamon [see 'The Tjulkurra': Billy Stockman Tjapaltjarri, ISBN 1-876622-37-7] A court of inquiry said the European action was ‘justified'. [21] [22]

[edit] After 1930

1932-34 Caledon Bay crisis: In 1932, five Japanese poachers, two white men, and a policeman were killed by Yolngu people in retaliation for rapes. A "punitive expedition" from Darwin was proposed, just as had happened at the Coniston massacre four years earlier, but this was averted, and the matter was settled in the courts. This event is marked as a significant turning point in the history of the treatment of Aboriginal people.

Edited September 2, 2007 by Survival

[Annette]

Ja swaer .. so gaan dit maar. My broer-hulle woon en gee skool op 'n Indiaan reservaat in Kanada en dieselfde storie...

en so gaan dit met die inheemse mense van Suid-Amerika, Indonesië, Nieu-Zeeland, Alaska ens. ens. ... met enkele uitsonderings. My pa het altyd gesê die enigste rede hoekom die Amerikaners en Australiers so relatief min probleme met die inheemse volke het is dat hulle 'slim' genoeg was om hulle uit te wis tot so 'n mate dat hulle nie meer 'n impak op die nuwe Westerse gemeenskap gehad het nie.