Sheilaw Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 My family have PR, been in Australia going on 5 years. Need to get my parents over here asap and cannot wait years for them to get visa. Is it an option for them to come for a visit (12 month visitor's visa) then apply for permanent visa ince they are here? Has anyone gone down this road? What does it cost? Is it feasible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RYLC Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 Welcome to the forum Sheilaw. From recent posts by other members, it is highly unusual to get a 12 month visitor visa. Particularly for the first visit. The visa is usually for three months. I also don't recall anybody posting about bringing parents on a visitor visa and then applying onshore for parent visas. I'm sure most people would do this if it was feasible. Unfortunately it does take years for an application to be processed, particularly since so many more people started to apply for the parent visas. The Home Affairs website covers all the different visa options if you have a read there. Here is the link: https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/trav/brin/pare I've tagged our r two resident migration agents here for you. Hopefully they can shed some light on this for you. @TeeTMI @SD_MOA There is also a dedicated thread on this forum for Parent Visa and you'll find a lot of information (and support) there: http://www.saaustralia.org/topic/48045-contributory-parent-143-visa-support-group/ 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RYLC Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 Just thinking and realised that the most critical issue for parent visas is whether they can pass the Balance of Family test. Do you have siblings and which countries do they live in? There is more information on the criteria for meeting this condition in order to qualify to even apply for a visa. See more here https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/trav/brin/pare/balance-of-family-test 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeTMI Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 Hi Sheilaw Welcome to the forum. As above meeting the Balance of Family test is one of the selection criteria. Applying for the visa and waiting in Australia for it to be granted can be an option if your parents meet the selection criteria for one of the relevant visas. One issue would be their age, one of them would need to aged at least 65.5 years of age. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheilaw Posted September 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 Thanks so much everyone!! It was a forum very much like this one that helped us get to Australia nearly 5 years ago. My parents are both in their 70s. I have a brother living in SA, but he is desperately trying to leave too. Meet the balance of family as I only have 1 brother and we have PR, waiting for Australian citizenship... should be getting that really soon. Related question... why is there a visa with CRAZY processing time... 30+ years?! Would anyone do that?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazzy Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 8 hours ago, Sheilaw said: My family have PR, been in Australia going on 5 years. Need to get my parents over here asap and cannot wait years for them to get visa. Is it an option for them to come for a visit (12 month visitor's visa) then apply for permanent visa ince they are here? Has anyone gone down this road? What does it cost? Is it feasible? Hi Sheila, I also investigated this option. If your parents have a South African passport they will be issued a condition of 'no further stay'. They will not be able to apply for any other VISA's while in the Australia. My mother has a British passport however, and this would not have been the case with her, the condition of no further stay would only have applied to my father on his South African passport. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheilaw Posted September 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 Mhmm... both my Mum and Dad have Portuguese passports. Does the condition ‘no further stay’ mean they cannot extend their visitor visa?? Would the still be allowed to apply for the aged visa whilst here on a holiday visa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeTMI Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 14 hours ago, Sheilaw said: Related question... why is there a visa with CRAZY processing time... 30+ years?! Would anyone do that?? Some people cannot afford the faster option, and depending upon their circumstances this may be an option. The government tried to remove this visa several years ago but did not succeed. 13 hours ago, Sheilaw said: Does the condition ‘no further stay’ mean they cannot extend their visitor visa?? Would the still be allowed to apply for the aged visa whilst here on a holiday visa? A ' no further stay' condition prevents an applicant applying for most other visa options (some limited exemptions), including an aged visa whilst they are in Australia unless the condition is waived. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheilaw Posted September 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2018 Given that my parents will travel on portuguese passports, does anyone know if they would or wouldn't have the 'no further stay' condition applied to them? They have visited with me once before for about 6 weeks and there would be about a year between that and their next visit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheilaw Posted September 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2018 Ps... thanks SO much for adding me to this forum! ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SD_MOA Posted September 26, 2018 Report Share Posted September 26, 2018 Hello Sheilaw, Condition 8503 (no further stay) can be placed on a lot of visas and it is not related to the passport (although some are more likely to have it applied than others). If your parents have had a visa and already visited Australia then this should mean there is less chance of the 8503 being imposed on the new visa. Their initial visitor visa may even still be valid? I hope this helps. Regards 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheilaw Posted September 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2018 (edited) Thank you, that does help- a lot! If my parents do not get the 8503 condition applied to their visas, is it feasible that they apply onshore for a temporary contributory parent visa... and why don’t more people do this? Edited September 26, 2018 by Sheilaw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RYLC Posted September 26, 2018 Report Share Posted September 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Sheilaw said: why don’t more people do this? Probably because they get the condition of no further stay on their visitor visa. It is the usual experience for most people on here. Otherwise there would be threads on here about how to get your family onshore on a visitor visa to then apply for a permanent visa while in Australia. So it sounds like it is possible but not common because there is no guarantee that an "open" visitor visa will be granted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheilaw Posted September 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2018 Thank you. If we get this right, I will certainly start that thread! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheilaw Posted September 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2018 55 minutes ago, RYLC said: Probably because they get the condition of no further stay on their visitor visa. It is the usual experience for most people on here. Otherwise there would be threads on here about how to get your family onshore on a visitor visa to then apply for a permanent visa while in Australia. So it sounds like it is possible but not common because there is no guarantee that an "open" visitor visa will be granted. How does one know if that condition has been placed on the visa and at what point? At airport on arrival? Or when visitor's visa is granted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RYLC Posted September 26, 2018 Report Share Posted September 26, 2018 When the visitor visa is granted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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