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[Narms]

Can any one advise......I suffer badly from Migrains.

THe only thing that seems to work is the SA Migraine packs that are specially made up at the pharmacy counters

We lived in the uk for a while and the only product that was available there was "migral" which didn't help much.

Do the pharmacys make up Migraine packs in Ausie?

Are you allowed to take a couple of emergacy packs with to Ausie ?

Is there a strong alternative to the migraine pack over there?

Any advice?

Thanks

Narms

[Kerry-Lea]

I'm sure if you get a script from the doc and take that with to Aus you'll be fine...

[Chrystal-Moon]

Narms;

Great question, I also suffer from daily headaches, which often goes over to migraines, so i dont have the answer but would also like to know.

C-M

[De Kat]

Ek sukkel maar hier in NZ met die ding. Mis my migraine-packs, die aptekers hier is snaaks met sulke goed. Ek het nou op advies van 'n vriendin Voltaren setpille begin gebruik. Nou ek en 'n setpil het hierdie vreeslike haat ding aan, en as ek die dag ingee en een gebruik, moet jy weet dis RERIG 'n migraine. Maar dit help, en vinnig. So if all else fails, kry 'n voorskrif en kry dit. Miskien bring sommer saam op die vliegtuig, vir die eerste ruk as jy nog rondsoek na 'n kwak.

[Narms]

Ek sukkel maar hier in NZ met die ding. Mis my migraine-packs, die aptekers hier is snaaks met sulke goed. Ek het nou op advies van 'n vriendin Voltaren setpille begin gebruik. Nou ek en 'n setpil het hierdie vreeslike haat ding aan, en as ek die dag ingee en een gebruik, moet jy weet dis RERIG 'n migraine. Maar dit help, en vinnig. So if all else fails, kry 'n voorskrif en kry dit. Miskien bring sommer saam op die vliegtuig, vir die eerste ruk as jy nog rondsoek na 'n kwak.

Thanks De Kat

I will certainly remember the Voltaren.

I would hate to bring over the packs and be in trouble on the other side for "DRUG SMUGGLING"

Wondering if it isn't worth packing them in socks and shipping them in the container ( if and when visa comes thru)

Just a thought......

Thanks for the Voltaren tip!

Narms

[Nilo]

I used to get at least one migrane attack a month, opperative word 'at least'!! My migranes start with spots of 'no see' or one side 'no see'!! No pain as yet but very debilitating as I had to just find a bed a tablet and lie down until it's gone. If I waited too long to drink a tablet the pain would start and when that happens is nausea etc etc.

Got one sooooo bad just after we arrived in AUs that the Dr here sent me for a brain CT just to make sure!! Hubby even stayed home from work that day he was so worried. You see I was sleeping so obviously didn't know it was coming on (my 'no see' spots warning), woke up and it was too late!!! Basicaly crawled from the bathroom to wake hubby up!! Was a long night!!

I went to a Homeopath and she treated me for about 6 months. Since then I've had about 3 minor migranes that would disappear when I drink one Syndol.

Worth a try!!

[Guest Mauritz]

Narms;

Great question, I also suffer from daily headaches, which often goes over to migraines, so i dont have the answer but would also like to know.

C-M

My wife suffered from migraine attacks for 15 years - we wasted thousands for Rands in South Africa and thousands of Dollars in Aus on a cure for migraine. I/we fully 'cured' her and since I've managed to help a few severe sufferers. It's possible. I'll write about it if someone is interested.

Edited June 12, 2008 by Mauritz

[eileen]

I would be very interested, Mauritz. I have suffered from migraine and severe headaches since the age of 14. I have two daughters aged 24 and 25.. one is relatively free from headaches but the older one, unfortunately, is like me and I just hate to think that this will be ongoing in her life. If you have a cure... please share. I will be forever grateful!!Thanks!!

[The Willmore's]

Can any one advise......I suffer badly from Migrains.

THe only thing that seems to work is the SA Migraine packs that are specially made up at the pharmacy counters

We lived in the uk for a while and the only product that was available there was "migral" which didn't help much.

Do the pharmacys make up Migraine packs in Ausie?

Are you allowed to take a couple of emergacy packs with to Ausie ?

Is there a strong alternative to the migraine pack over there?

Any advice?

Thanks

Narms

Find out the ingredients and dosages or keep the package insert. There are compound Chemists here that can make up what is needed but i'm not to sure if you would first get a script from your GP and then see the Chemist . Will see if i can google something here - it was a while ago on TV here. Good luck

Here's the article and contact details in Australia for Compound Chemist

http://au.todaytonight.yahoo.com/article/109413

http://www.stenlake.com.au/

Edited June 13, 2008 by The Willmore's

[Smitte]

Mauritz, we all are waiting to hear the secret!!!!

[Ajay]

I've suffered from migraine (not too often, thankfully) since I was a teenager, although they got much worse after my head injury (courtesy of a handgun and an armed robbery....) back in 1997. Like Nilo, I get a 'warning' with a funny metallic taste in my mouth and then disturbed vision, followed by the pain and nausea. I have never found anything that can prevent an attack once the metalic taste starts, but in SA, my doctor would give me an injection of Voltaren & Pethidene or Voltaren and Tramal, together with Stemetil for the nausea and sickness. This would genereally knock me out for long enough for the worst of it to pass.

Here in Australia, they are far more conservative though. The first time I staggered into the doctor wearing dark glasses and clutching my head, the doctor prescribed some Nurofen Plus! When I pointed out that this was an over-the-counter medicine and that I had a migraine and not a headache, he looked at me as if I was some dodgy addict looking to score my next hit Anyway, after much wailing and gnashing of teeth (and I think I may have thrown in a few threats - I was desperate!) he prescribed some Tramal tablets, which I took with Voltaren. Although not as quick acting as the injection, it seemed to do the job. I have since found a doctor (after going through the same thing with a few others over the past 30 months) that understands that there is a difference between a bad headache and a migraine, and he also gives me the injection - although not the pethidene one, just voltaren and tramal (with stemetil).

As I said, it doesn't happen often, so I deal with it when I have to, but if anyone out there has a genuine cure, I'd pay money!!

Cheers

Ajay

[Guest natalie3]

WOW..pethadine!!..that migrane must be very painful!!..they shoot u up with pethadine when u are in labour!!!..its a sister of morphine,,u guys best be careful...

BUT...my brother is a chemist (not a pharmacist..a chemist...as in makes and tests medicines in a lab)...i can ask him what he suggests..like what ingredients you should look out for.

The strongest painpill i ever took in my life was "synap forte:.....the dr said 2 tablets 3 times a day...i tell u those things are so strong i was drooling!..so i took one twice a day and it did the trick...they work on the synaptic nerve..

[Narms]

My wife suffered from migraine attacks for 15 years - we wasted thousands for Rands in South Africa and thousands of Dollars in Aus on a cure for migraine. I/we fully 'cured' her and since I've managed to help a few severe sufferers. It's possible. I'll write about it if someone is interested.

Mauritz thanks for the feedback - really interested in what you have to say.

look forward to your next post.

Thanks

Narms

[Narms]

Find out the ingredients and dosages or keep the package insert. There are compound Chemists here that can make up what is needed but i'm not to sure if you would first get a script from your GP and then see the Chemist . Will see if i can google something here - it was a while ago on TV here. Good luck

Here's the article and contact details in Australia for Compound Chemist

http://au.todaytonight.yahoo.com/article/109413

http://www.stenlake.com.au/

Thanks thats good to hear.

I can relax a little. Our local pharmacist is a real sweetie - i am sure she would give me the ingredients.

If that is the case and she does - if any one is interested - pm me and i will give you the ingredients for the pack

thanks

narms

[Narms]

I used to get at least one migrane attack a month, opperative word 'at least'!! My migranes start with spots of 'no see' or one side 'no see'!! No pain as yet but very debilitating as I had to just find a bed a tablet and lie down until it's gone. If I waited too long to drink a tablet the pain would start and when that happens is nausea etc etc.

Got one sooooo bad just after we arrived in AUs that the Dr here sent me for a brain CT just to make sure!! Hubby even stayed home from work that day he was so worried. You see I was sleeping so obviously didn't know it was coming on (my 'no see' spots warning), woke up and it was too late!!! Basicaly crawled from the bathroom to wake hubby up!! Was a long night!!

I went to a Homeopath and she treated me for about 6 months. Since then I've had about 3 minor migranes that would disappear when I drink one Syndol.

Worth a try!!

Thanks Nilo

I know exactly what you are talking about - I have the same symptoms and its crippling!

Interested to hear what Mauritz has to say.....maybe he could cure us all.

Homeopathy is also a possible alternative. Its just scary to think it would take 6 months - thats a long time to suffer in the mean time. Thanks for the feedback - i will probably contact you closer to the time for your homeopath's details if you dont mind.

Thanks

Narms

[Guest Mauritz]

As I said, it doesn't happen often, so I deal with it when I have to, but if anyone out there has a genuine cure, I'd pay money!!

The 'cure' cost nothing - just a bit of common sense. There are apparently cases that are not curable, although I believe it's people that don't have the discipline to go all the way. There might be some real physiological disorders/abnormalities that can't be changed in some cases.

I don't have much time tonight, but I'll start with two real 'case studies.' I have never experienced migraine, but if you live with a migraine sufferer then you get a good idea of the suffering. My wife's experience started when she was around 14 - the case with many people. She had all types of scans done, all types of conventional treatment - tried chiropractors etc when everything else failed. A specialist told her that her one leg is shorter than the other. Other medical experts said it was hormonal - so all types of treatment. Others suggested allergies - so allergy tests - the total cost, including drugs was astronomical.

The second, a bloke I dealt with business wise. He grew up in Switzerland - received all types of treatment, scans and things - this continued here in Aus. He was an excellent tennis player - played with all the big names - he gave up his tennis career because of migraine. He lost a few jobs because he couldn't cope with the driving - started his own business. They had a new born baby and as many of you know - if you run a business then you don't get sick days. Every time he was out of action - they called me to please give a hand. I told him about 'the cure' - he didn't want to bite - to set in his lifestyle he said. One day his wife called me in tears, he's in intensive care. This happened on a regular basis - it was so bad, the ambulance was called out on a few occasions. In this case, he took medication, but he was given more by mistake - they overdosed him and he spent 3 days in intensive care.

I see, some still see me as arrogant - guess I am - 10 years ago I was arrogance in a suit, with a broomstick up my backside. His poor wife was trying to keep the business going with a baby on the hip. When he arrived one day, just out of hospital - looking like a corpse - I grabbed him by the ear and walked him to his baby son. I told him that he'll be lucky to see that boy growing up if he continues with this nonsense. He agreed - within 6 weeks he was drug free for the first time in 15 years. I saw him 2 years ago - the bugger is rolling in money and still drug free.

Just a question - what do you think the purpose of pain is???? If you get terrible pain in you knee - you can't bend it - your body tells you to rest - not to bend that knee. Pain has purpose -ask any physiologist. The purpose is to prevent you from doing more damage to yourself. If you take a drug for that knee pain - you basically block the pain receptors - so you think you're cured. You continue to use that knee - the damage continues. Soon you need surgery and your running days are over.

One of the doctors I know and go to, was a very, very good runner. His knees started playing up - he took drugs and drugs and drugs - he continued running - today he's without knee caps - his running days are over - he's in his early forties. A man peaks at the age of 42 in regards to stamina - he'll never run again. He didn't listen to his body - he blocked it. It wasn't a cure after all, it was just treating a symptom.

No difference with a migraine - easy to solve it - just take another drug. Does it really solve the problem, the cause of the whole episode???? Think about that for a while

[Narms]

I've suffered from migraine (not too often, thankfully) since I was a teenager, although they got much worse after my head injury (courtesy of a handgun and an armed robbery....) back in 1997. Like Nilo, I get a 'warning' with a funny metallic taste in my mouth and then disturbed vision, followed by the pain and nausea. I have never found anything that can prevent an attack once the metalic taste starts, but in SA, my doctor would give me an injection of Voltaren & Pethidene or Voltaren and Tramal, together with Stemetil for the nausea and sickness. This would genereally knock me out for long enough for the worst of it to pass.

Here in Australia, they are far more conservative though. The first time I staggered into the doctor wearing dark glasses and clutching my head, the doctor prescribed some Nurofen Plus! When I pointed out that this was an over-the-counter medicine and that I had a migraine and not a headache, he looked at me as if I was some dodgy addict looking to score my next hit Anyway, after much wailing and gnashing of teeth (and I think I may have thrown in a few threats - I was desperate!) he prescribed some Tramal tablets, which I took with Voltaren. Although not as quick acting as the injection, it seemed to do the job. I have since found a doctor (after going through the same thing with a few others over the past 30 months) that understands that there is a difference between a bad headache and a migraine, and he also gives me the injection - although not the pethidene one, just voltaren and tramal (with stemetil).

As I said, it doesn't happen often, so I deal with it when I have to, but if anyone out there has a genuine cure, I'd pay money!!

Cheers

Ajay

Hi Ajay

I am with you there! Come on Mauritz spill the beans!

And please dont come back with " stop the coffee and chocolate!

Nurofen + - I would have started crying right there and then collapsing in a heap on his doctors room floor!

If that didn't work i would try the tantrum route!!

I was worried that would be the attitude from the doctors - same as in the uk. IF you haven't had a migraine you cant identify with it - ITS NOT A HEAD ACHE!

I dont like to be cruel but in that instance i would wish one migraine on them so they know how it feels.

When i first started suffering - dear hubby said lie down and just keep drinking water its probably dehydration - he has since learned its alot more serious than that and if he suggests the water remedy he will end up wearing it! Oh and his life will be hell when i recover -

Narms

[Ajay]

WOW..pethadine!!..that migrane must be very painful!!..they shoot u up with pethadine when u are in labour!!!..its a sister of morphine,,u guys best be careful...

BUT...my brother is a chemist (not a pharmacist..a chemist...as in makes and tests medicines in a lab)...i can ask him what he suggests..like what ingredients you should look out for.

The strongest painpill i ever took in my life was "synap forte:.....the dr said 2 tablets 3 times a day...i tell u those things are so strong i was drooling!..so i took one twice a day and it did the trick...they work on the synaptic nerve..

I've been in labour - twice (first time for 52 hours...... ); I've been shot - once ; and I've had all 4 wisdom teeth hauled out sans anaesthetic - believe me, a 'true' migrane (as opposed to a bad headache) stands its own against these in terms of crippling pain. So, yep, pethadine is hectic, but I still wish that when I'm feeling as though Jason, Freddy, Michael Myers, the dude in the mask in Scream and the Texas Chainsaw Massacarist are all attacking my head with their various sharp implements at the same time, someone in a nice white coat would just oblige me and give me something that will make them stop

Marius - still waiting. Your previous post was too cryptic for simple ole me....

Ajay

[Nilo]

Sorrie Mau, don't catch your drift!! My megranes appear without me overdoing anything!!

[Guest Mauritz]

Sorrie Mau, don't catch your drift!! My megranes appear without me overdoing anything!!

You don't have to 'overdo' anything - sometimes you can just 'let things go' a little bit to much

[Biltongboer]

You don't have to 'overdo' anything - sometimes you can just 'let things go' a little bit to much

Jy weet darem hoe om die crowd nuuskierig te kry ne? Rek hom nog so bietjie uit...

Edited June 13, 2008 by Biltongboer

[SuzetteJ]

Net soos baie ander goed is 'n migraine ook nie meer wat dit was nie

[Guest natalie3]

"I dont like the drugs ..but the drugs like meeeee"..

sorry..just couldnt resist...

Edited June 13, 2008 by natalie3

[Nilo]

BB, kry jy migranes? Indien nie, sharrap en gaan speel in die pad!!!

OF

Kry 'n migrane dan sal jy weet waarvan ons praat!!

[SueB]

OK, I've thought about it and I think I understand what you are trying to say, please tell me if I got it wrong

Because I think what you are saying is that pills treat the symptoms, not the cause. And that the cure is abit like trying to lose weight - one has to make a permanent lifestyle change, otherwise the kilograms just come back!

So if one wants to stop having migraines, one has to identify the cause, right?

Edited June 14, 2008 by SueB