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Just seems a lot like Segregation to me. However, I am taking slight offence at you MISSING MY POINTS. In BOTH my posts, I mention that I am TORN.. Please re-read. I UNDERSTAND why you want what you want. I do, as I said.. twice.. So stand down. You're accusing me of being something I am not with your, 'Live and let live' comment.

"And if you were you would also appreciate the Aussie ability to be tolerant" - again, offensive, as it seems like you're saying I'm not tolerant. Either that, or you're being patronising. One or the other.

I also didn't realise you would attend both english AND afrikaans. I'm used to SA (and the UK) when you have one playgroup/nursary... not two. So this is foreign to me, and excuse my mis-understanding.

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Craig, don't make an issuem it's not neccessary and it's not something you need to worry about. Why do you keep on coming back to this thread and making it into an argument!! PM Angi if you need to and take it from there!! Agge nee man!!

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Hey Craig steady on there mate, you were the one who aired your views and your tone did seem to come over as a bit accusatory in your initial posts, so now that someone else answers you and gives their opinion, don't go crying foul. Such is the nature of a forum - its often a debate and an opportunity for people to share their opinions just like you did in the first place.

To me it is a fundamental human right - "freedom of association". If you want to, say organise a knitting group then those who want to knit has the right to associate and yes those who do not want to knit/can't knit/ are not interested in knitting are sort of excluded but by their own choice. Take for example the German Schools system in South Africa or the plethora of other associations/ organisations/ clubs/ institutions/universities and schools arranged around this concept in RSA and all over the world.

Maybe if Afrikaans was more of a world language you'd feel a bit different? I suspect though that there is a bit of "baggage" with you when it comes to the actual language in question being Afrikaans.....

Anyway all interested in allowing their kids to play and chat in Afrikaans are welcome. I read somewhere recently that as much as about 25% ( I forget the actual figure now) of Australians actually speak a different language than English at home. I often hear my fellow Aussies express the view that they'd love to have a second/third language. I think that it is seen as a positive over here, as long as you are not rude, impolite or deliberately excluding others from a conversation. My little one was born as an Aussie so there will be no problem with English eventually, but I think since we speak Afrikaans at home we need to give him every opportunity to feel comfortable, confident and proficient in Afrikaans. After all he would not have the benefit of formal schooling in Afrikaans as we did.

Anyway Craig I see you are arriving soon, good luck with it all, and "hou die blink kant bo" :ilikeit: and by all means don't "hold your mouth" ;)

Cheers

C'BUG :ilikeit:

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I can give him the opportunity to be bilingual, many Aussies admire that greatly and wish they could be truly bilingual. Learning German at school is just not the same. The reason for the Afrikaans playgroup is so that the children are able to speak Afrikaans at play one day a week and so that they don't associate the language just with their parents but with peers as well.

here is a noval concept ...Mandarin will go a lot further than Afrikaans or Hebrew for that matter :ilikeit:

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here is a noval concept ...Mandarin will go a lot further than Afrikaans or Hebrew for that matter :D

Sure. So?

Ps. "Novel" :)

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Craig

It is good that you feel torn, you will wrestle with many issues and feel very torn as soon as you start settling in. It will take you about 5 years to sort out these issues and loyalties in your mind. You will feel as if you are between the devil and the deep blue sea - many times and on many issues. You will learn to become an Aussie, you will change, your expectations will change, you will become less paranoid, you will feel much free-er and much more accountable by the Aussie laws - they are not made to be broken here. It will be a hard time and a great time for you and your family.

Just for your clarification:

A playgroup is something attended by mothers and babies/ todlers for a few hours so that both mum and bub can socialise, usually once a week.

A nursary or daycare is where the mother leaves the child in the care of paid for staff who looks after the child while the mother goes to work etc.

Angi

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you will become less paranoid, you will feel much free-er and much more accountable by the Aussie laws - they are not made to be broken here. It will be a hard time and a great time for you and your family.

Sorry, can you clarrify that? You don't know my history, but can you clarrify that quick?

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How dare you insult every South African living in Australia.

I'm so english it just isn't true but I am married to an afrikaner, my children speak afrikaans and I think South Africans moms all over Australia should start an AFRIKAANS play group in each Australian town for their children.

They have immigrated to Australia, not died and been reborn as Australians, they are South Africans and still bladdy proud to be. It is not easy on any child to leave the only lifestyle and culture they know to be in a place where everything is new, strange and scary to them. Especially when they are toddlers and only know afrikaans. I think afrikaans playgroups/youth centres and get togethers would be wonderful for all SA children. That way they would'nt feel so lost.

People like you on this forum make me sick to my gut, it is not intended to deal out insult and critism. This is a place where South Africans are supposed to receive support.

So why don't you go play with the kangaroos, kuala bears or go for australian accent lessons and forget you ever where South African. Why did you register to this forum if you just want to leave the past behind? You obviously want to be in touch with fellow South Africans because this is YOUR CULTURE.

Leave the rest of us to remember, cherish and carry with us who and what we are. South Africans chose Australia for a better life, not because they want to forget that they are South Africans.

You may as well tell Celine Dion not to sing in french because she lives in America!!!!

SO YOU GET A LIFE.

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Craig

You are putting this as if it a racial issue. I assure you, it definetly is not, this about South African culture. Do you really think that if Australians came to South Africa they would just switch to afrikaans and tell their children "you have to speak afrikaans now, forget english and deal with it"? Most certainly not. South African moms in Australia are simply trying to find children that can mingle with their own making it easier for the children to be there. You must remember that any sudden change (this being a HUGE one) is not easy on any child.

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Excuse me?? I am not making anything into a racial issue. How did you deduce that??

And no, I don't think an Aussie would change to Afrikaans. Why do you think I may think that? Same as a Spaniard, or a German wouldn't try convert their children to afrikaans.

You're also flogging a dead horse. I didn't know that people were going to look for more than one play group, as I mentioned in a previous post, and I have appologised for that mis-understanding.

Now, how am I making it a racial issue?

ALSO, as people asked Sarah to calm down, I certainly hope we have a level playing field, and someone asks you to calm it. Quoting you, 'So why don't you go play with the kangaroos, kuala bears or go for australian accent lessons'. A little harsh, no? Agaim, quoting you, 'SO YOU GET A LIFE.'. I'm assuming a retraction will be requested from those who requested the same from Sarah?

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Craig,

Relax!!

I quote you: "To me, this is something like, the 'BPA'.. Black Policemans Association... Limited to blacks only. Is that not a strange thing? No whites, they're saying. They can be part of the general police association, but they want their own as well."

As soon as you mention skin colour it becomes a racial issue. You cannot compare this issue to your above-mentioned issue. South Africans love Australia, that is why they went there! Of course parents are going to want their kids to become a part of the way things are in Australia, they just don't want to completely enstrange the kids from what they know. Like I said, any change to a child is difficult but more so for toddlers and I think that is why playgroups are suggested. Just to make things easier for the little ones.

I am just trying to help you understand the situation, not saying what you said is wrong or trying to BITE you!

So your afrikaans play group - is it open to Aussies, like the aussie one is open to yours? To me, this is something like, the 'BPA'.. Black Policemans Association... Limited to blacks only. Is that not a strange thing? No whites, they're saying. They can be part of the general police association, but they want their own as well. Na, sorry. Don't agree with that...

And, on the other hand, as I mentioned, you want to keep your language.. your heritage, basically, which I do understand. Hence, being torn.

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"As soon as you mention skin colour it becomes a racial issue." :ilikeit: You're kidding, right?

I was using that as an example of segregation - something I DON'T agree with. And that was my point of having an Afrikaans play group, and an English playgroup just across the way. It's a form of segregation. Look up the definition of the word.

If I had used another example, lets say, 'Catholic schools and Muslim schools' - another example of segregation, would this entire thread be changed to a religous war? It's called an example.

However, and I feel like NO ONE is grasping this: I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WOULD WANT TO HAVE AN AFRIKAANS PLAY GROUP! Is that NOT sinking in?? That's possibly the FORTH time I have said that. But it seems people are so jumping to the defence of their language and culture, that they are somehow reading only the parts they want to read. Everyone pats each other on the back - 'Great post guys', 'yeah'... 'High Five'...

I'm still interested to see if you're asked to retract your scathing attack on Sarah...

I've accused no one of anything, but I have been told I'm not tollerant, I seem to have racist views, I have NO idea what it's like to live in Australia, I have 'baggage' about the Afrikaans language, I'm parinoid, I seem to have become a law breaker or something as I will be more 'accountable'. These comments from people who know NOTHING about me, never MET me.. never even SPOKEN to me...

Very interesting...

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Well Graig looks like you are learning something about human nature........you stick your head into a innocent thread asking for those who are interested in an Afr play group - whilst having no obvious interest in the Afr play group you wave you opinions around with the diplomacy and tact of a blunt instrument/bull in a china shop.........you cry foul......now you feel sorry for yourself and feel you are not understood........shame poor you! So now you can add language/culture to the big no-no discussion topics of politics, religion and sexual preferences............and if you do decide to discuss these you'd better be very polite and diplomatic if you don't wantto have this type of reaction....especially so in Australia.

I suggest stop hi-jacking this thread and leave it to those who are really interested in the formation of the play group and go and bug some other group/thread on this forum like those who prefer to "segragate themselves" from the rest of Australian society by selfishly deciding to tour Australia in campervans to the exclusion of those who camp, live in hotels or backpack. I'm sure they'd love to debate this with you.

No but this one about a Afr play group is too interesting hey? Your baggage is obvious.

Over and out!

Chatterbug

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Well Graig looks like you are learning something about human nature........you stick your head into a innocent thread asking for those who are interested in an Afr play group - whilst having no obvious interest in the Afr play group you wave you opinions around with the diplomacy and tact of a blunt instrument/bull in a china shop.........you cry foul......now you feel sorry for yourself and feel you are not understood........shame poor you! So now you can add language/culture to the big no-no discussion topics of politics, religion and sexual preferences............and if you do decide to discuss these you'd better be very polite and diplomatic if you don't wantto have this type of reaction....especially so in Australia.

I suggest stop hi-jacking this thread and leave it to those who are really interested in the formation of the play group and go and bug some other group/thread on this forum like those who prefer to "segragate themselves" from the rest of Australian society by selfishly deciding to tour Australia in campervans to the exclusion of those who camp, live in hotels or backpack. I'm sure they'd love to debate this with you.

No but this one about a Afr play group is too interesting hey? Your baggage is obvious.

Over and out!

Chatterbug

Well said!! :ilikeit: Don't know why he comes and pokes around this thread. And way back in the thread I asked him what if you attend both aussie & afrikaans playgroups and he still had an issue. Me thinks he needs to stir some other topic... :jester:

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haha..

I think what you should do and stand back and look at yourselves... One person questions the topic, and you all, like a pack of hungry wolves, leap to the defence of your langauge. Now, the only time that happens, is when people are scared.

Did you answer my questions? Cos you can't. Did you go on a wild accusation run? Yes. Attack is the best form of defence. I can see that. Did you paste Sarah for shouting her mind? Yes. Did you do the same when one of your pack did the same to her and me? No. hehe.. Shame.

So keep high fiving each other, back patting, and sticking to your ever deminishing group. I have no problems. English will be around as an official language for a long long LONG time. Compare that the the future of afrikaans? :ilikeit:

Enjoy it while it lasts.. I'll leave your wee thread. Don't worry.

Have a GREAT day.

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haha..

I think what you should do and stand back and look at yourselves... One person questions the topic, and you all, like a pack of hungry wolves, leap to the defence of your langauge. Now, the only time that happens, is when people are scared.

Did you answer my questions? Cos you can't. Did you go on a wild accusation run? Yes. Attack is the best form of defence. I can see that. Did you paste Sarah for shouting her mind? Yes. Did you do the same when one of your pack did the same to her and me? No. hehe.. Shame.

So keep high fiving each other, back patting, and sticking to your ever deminishing group. I have no problems. English will be around as an official language for a long long LONG time. Compare that the the future of afrikaans? unsure.gif

Enjoy it while it lasts.. I'll leave your wee thread. Don't worry.

Have a GREAT day

I will always defend my right to be able to teach my child a language that both his/her parents speak. It is my right to give the oppertunity to teach him another language, that has been proved that if you speak more than one language you are smarter than those that only speak one :ilikeit:

I think you need to have a good look at YOURSELF and ask yourself why you bothered to interfere in a thread that has no meaning to you. You can't expect people not to get upset by what you said. You have been totally out of place here, so don't you go and through your toys out of your cot. You really were looking for trouble when you posted here. :jester:

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English will be around as an official language for a long long LONG time. Compare that the the future of afrikaans? :unsure:

Enjoy it while it lasts.

That's what you call baggage.......I see the scars are still deep! :whome:

I'm off too; I'm so over this type of cr@p....... :ilikeit:

Bemoerde BUG

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Hey Ouens kom ons ignoreer die ou net, hopelik is hy nou weg. Nie die moeite werd om mens op te werk hieroor nie, hy floreer net in hierdie tipe kontroversie en ons is net besig om hierdie trol tipe gedrag te voer.

Hopelik is hy nou weg maar mens kan nie so seker wees nie.

Lekkerbly

Tjoepstil Gogga

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Ek is skaam vir my land in sy huidige toestand en baie trots op my taal AFR. Ek is reeds trots op my nuwe land (ek het hom self gekies) en is trots om te se ons kan net so goed engels ook praat. My seuntjie is 6 en 100% twee talig (dankie vir cartoon network) en my dogtertjie 4 kan haarself baie goed help. Nogtans tussen al die aanpassing en nuwe dinge sal dit baie lekker wees om met ander afrikaners te meng. Ek glo ook dat dit baie goed is om twee talig te wees.

Sterkte met die speel groep, ek glo daar gaan baie belangstelling wees.

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Craig

For heavan’s sake dude BUTT OUT…it is obvious you either have no children or not an ounce of afrikaans blood in you!!

Perhaps you simply do not get enough attention and so you seek ours? Well, let me indulge you for the FINAL time. Then you really have to find something else to do.

Laat ek jou “nou stap vir stap verduidelikâ€

Angi enquires about Afrikaans playgroups and so far receives positive responses.

Then Sarah flies in out of nowhere and lashes out about “clinging to the past†“letting go†and “hou julle bekkeâ€

(I wonder, if she got married to a French guy instead who couldn’t speak a word of English, would she do the same?)

Angi responds directly to Sarah’s remarks in a friendly manner, Dedrei agrees with everyone and asks Sarah to leave us alone. Like Carelene said “Dis nie ons wat ons land verlaat het nie, dis ons land wat ons verlaat het†This is in response to Sarah’s remark of “escapingâ€

Then you stated “But on the other hand, surely asking for an Afrikaans play group excludes the aussies from your idea…?â€

WHO THE HELL EXCLUDED THE AUSSIES? IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO JOIN AN AFRIKAANS PLAY GROUP, BY ALL MEANS! THEY ARE MORE THAN WELCOME

And you also sarcastically referred to Sarah by saying “Please, no one tell me to ‘hold my mouth’.

And you said “ To me, this is something like, the 'BPA'.. Black Policemans Association... Limited to blacks only… No whites, they're sayingâ€

To me, you ARE comparing this to a racial issue! JUST READ WHAT YOU WROTE!!!

Angi also pointed out to you, as I have, that aussies are welcome at the play

Groups and even says that aussies “wouldn't mind the Black policemen having their own association, live and let live that's what they believe.â€

But you thought she was talking about you! Didn't know you were the aussies.

SEEMS TO ME LIKE YOU ARE USED TO BEING EXCLUDED FROM EVERYTHING!!!!

After everyone’s comments about Australians being open to any thing, you still carry on about SEGREGATION. If you are so TORN sort it out with yourself instead of bringing negativity to this topic.

'Live and let live' is not an ACCUSATION, it is a STATEMENT. No one ACCUSED you of “being something you are notâ€. No one OFFENDED or PATRONISED you. She was referring to your comment of “BPA†and comparing that to the Australians and so said THEY were tolerant. If this is FOREIGN to you, stay away.

I agree with Chatterbug, YOU are the one ACCUSING others. Chatterbug ended with a kind statement: “Anyway Craig I see you are arriving soon, good luck with it all, and "hou die blink kant bo" and by all means don't "hold your mouth"

But you still have this need to attack us here, why don’t you meet up with everyone face to face and let’s see if you’ll have the guts to do it then? Easy when the Afrikaans husbands aren’t around hey??

Angi then all too friendly thinks that you being torn is about relocating to Australia, so she writes to you in a supportive manner. But you blurt out ‘You don’t know my history…†blah blah blah.

READ WHAT SHE WROTE.

My response addressed to Sarah (NOT TO YOU) which I still stand firmly by.

I told YOU that I felt you were comparing this to a racial issue

YOU: "How do I deduce that?

Let me quote you: “Limited to blacks only… No whitesâ€

Then you wrote:

And no, I don't think an Aussie would change to Afrikaans. Why do you think I may think that? Same as a Spaniard, or a German wouldn't try convert their children to afrikaans.

EXACTLY! Neither will South Africans instantly convert their children to a foreign nationality! IT IS IMPOSSIBLE! Born South African, Die South African. Same for every other nationality. You should think before quoting, it is obvious you don’t even remember what you said! You were the one who thought it was wrong to start the play group. Please don’t start arguing again, go back to your quotes.

Then you said:

“ALSO, as people asked Sarah to calm down, I certainly hope we have a level playing field, and someone asks you to calm it.â€

If you can deal out here, you can receive it! Read everything you wrote and then think about who needs to calm down.

I was way too lenient on you here, you BROKE OUT and I still calmly tried to explain the issue to you.

YOU: “I was using that as an example of segregation - something I DON'T agree with. And that was my point of having an Afrikaans play group, and an English playgroup just across the way. It's a form of segregation.â€

Good heavens you are starting to confuse yourself? You must be TORN deciding what to eat each night, beef or chicken? Too afraid to offend the other!!!!!

YOU: “But it seems people are so jumping to the defence of their language and cultureâ€

You bet Ya! You are offending Afrikaners here, we WILL defend ourselves and each other no matter what. You can’t come out and swing at us without knowing what this is all about.

YOU: “I'm still interested to see if you're asked to retract your scathing attack on Sarah...â€

SORRY, WON’T DO THAT

YOU: “…but I have been told I'm not tollerant,

(WHO SAID THAT?)

YOU: I seem to have racist views,

(YOU DO HAVE RACIST VIEWS!)

YOU: I have NO idea what it's like to live in Australia,

(YOU DON’T)

YOU: I have 'baggage' about the Afrikaans language,

(IF YOU DON’T, WHY YOU STILL HASSELING US?)

YOU:

YOU: I'm paranoid,

(WELL SO IT APPEARS)

I seem to have become a law breaker or something as I will be more 'accountable'.

(YES, THEY WON’T TOLERATE YOUR BEHAVIOUR THERE)

YOU: These comments from people who know NOTHING about me) never MET me.. never even SPOKEN to me... ,

(THANK THE LORD)

You talk about us being scared!

Obviously you are PETRIFIED cause YOU are on the DEFENSE mode and you keep coming back for more!!!

Which of your question has not been answered?

This so-called ‘pack†obviously is to show you that we all feel the same way even though we don’t even know each other, be careful of determining the afrikaans future, if one of us should bump into you in Australia then YOUR future is at risk. Like Dedrei said - you are looking for trouble here

I COULD’VE JUST TYPED A PARAGRAPH OR 2 BUT YOU SEEM TO LIKE DRAMA, SO HOPE YOU HAVE A BALL!!!!

LIKE I SAID, THIS IS THE FINAL TIME I WILL REPLY TO YOU, PLEASE SPARE YOUR REMARKS – YOU WILL NOT HEAR FROM ME AGAIN.

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I had a request to visit this thread (as a host) as it was getting a bit out of hand.

I've read through the posts (not every word, but scanned through) and it seems to me that it is all a big misunderstanding of a few people's intentions, and then boiled over as ppl were trying to defend their point of view, not getting what the other person actually intended. And now it's getting a bit nasty...

This is really not necessary. It was a simple question - let's stick to that. (And try not to attack each other in the process...) If this conversation continues in this manner, I will have to move it to cooler, and I think it is actually a valid question if, provided a valid answer, could help other forumites with the same questions.

In everyone's defence - Afrikaans is a topic close to the heart to a lot of ppl and something which has been debated over and over : keep it or loose it? So, it is only natural that ppl will get a bit emotional about it. In the end it is still everyone's personal choice, and not worth loosing friends or burning bridges over....

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Like Riekie, I was also asked to review this thread because of the direction it was taking, as well as the reactions that some had to what was said. I also tried to read everything, and also tried to come up with some or other conclusion. So here is my take on the issue:

I do believe the real injustice done to Angi in her initial posting was Thread Hi-Jacking. I am quite sure she did not start the thread with the intent of initiating a debate about assimilation into a foreign (Australian) culture. All she asked for was for interested mothers to join her in starting an Afrikaans play group. ALL of the negativity started when folks began to question her motives. This is not cricket! If you want to do that, start your own thread and title it in a way as to indicate your invite for debate about your thoughts. As the host team of the forum we really really need to be able to rely on the forum membership to stick to the topics of threads, and to play the ball, rather than the man (or woman).

You may have noticed that the forum has literally exploded into action in the recent past, and I hope you will have understanding for the fact that as a team we simply cannot "police" all threads for bad conduct. This is also the reason why we have a team of HOSTS and not MODERATORS: it is our mission to act as hosts for those visiting the forum, and NOT to be policing moderators who berate and warn folks left right and center. We also have lives, and the hosting that we do here is out of love and devotion to our fellow South Africans, both in Australia, and in South Africa, who wish to make Australia their new home.

I do not want to initiate draconian measures of coming down hard on members who misbehave, but I do want to urge everyone to count to 10 before firing off that rebuttal or accusation that will send the particular thread spinning off into chaos and mud slinging. We are all adults here (or mostly, anyway), so please let's concentrate on what this forum is all about!

Sela!

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I agree with Riekie and Hendie. This issue has raised a lot of passions and a bit of a shouting match (but perhaps not enough patience and tolerance). It shows once again that racial/religious/language/political issues are (too) close to the surface amongst South Africans. I don’t intend sticking my nose into a hornets-nest, but as a long-time resident, I would like to provide some context and perspective for would-be Australians.

Australia is a multi-cultural society, and that is important to me. It is similar to Canada, but different from the “melting-pot†policies of the USA, or the mono-cultural policies of Europe. This means (in short) that all Australians have the freedom to express and share their cultural values, but they have to (amongst other things) accept and respect the equality of others, freedom of speech, religion, English as the national language, and they must have an overriding loyalty to Australia.

I did not make this up. Since about 1973, it is official policy, and I believe in it. This is why we can be accepted and welcomed as immigrants into this society. The principles of the multicultural policy are: Respect for each person, Fairness for each person, Benefits for all and Responsibilities of all; the goal is community harmony and social cohesion.

So far I have not seen any evidence that the Afrikaans play-group contravenes the letter or spirit of this policy. Many of my old South African friends in Australia are Jewish, many of their kids go to Jewish kindies; much like my Hindu/Yugoslav friends’ kids go to Hindi/Yugoslav play groups. Etc. Ie you are expected to integrate, but you can still practice your own habits on the side, as long as you don’t offend/discriminate. Live and let live. Give and take. Different but equal.

So, if we abide by these guidelines, it is okay, we are all Aussies together. But not respecting these principles would be un-Australian, and I urge everybody who wants to come to Australia to keep this in mind, no matter what your background (or which group you don’t like) – if you want to be welcome.

Personally, I try not to discriminate, I dislike all bigotry equally, whether anti-black, anti-Jewish, anti-woman, anti-guy, or anti-Afrikaner. I gave Craig the benefit of the doubt before, but really he nailed his colours to the mast with his last post. Before that, Sarah displayed ignorance bordering on being offensive. Some on the other side also got a bit too sensitive and nasty imo. Anyway, moving forward….

Btw. I have another personal interest in this, even if not from Brisbane. My Afrikaans is a bit rusty, my wife is Australian, our kids were born in Canada, and our nannies are English-speaking. We try and teach the kids 3 languages: English, Afrikaans, and French. I was a stay-at-home dad for the first year, but struggle with teaching Afrikaans by myself. So I would personally be interested in an Afrikaans play-group (toddler-age) in Sydney later in the year. If anyone is aware of something in the northern suburbs, please send me a PM.

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Net my 2c..

Ek sou my voortande gee om 'n Afr. speelgroepie by te gewoon het toe ons 4 jaar terug gearriveer het. Ons het in 'n klein dorpie in rural Qld gewoon en was die enigste Afr. in die gemeenskap.Ons dogtertjie was 2 jr en 2 maande oud . Kon haarself nog nie eers behoorlik uitdruk in Afr. en toe word sy amper 24/7 blootgestel aan 'n nuwe gemeenskaps taal. Ons het aanhou Afr. by die huis praat maar baie dinge in Eng. herhaal om haar te help met die nuwe taal.

Wel ... 4 jr later... sy verstaan Afr. en gebruik nog hier en daar Afr woorde maar is volledig Eng. Een ligpunt.. sy begin nou vrae vra soos" Hoe sê mens dit ... en dat... in Afr?

Soooo my raad : begin 'n Afr. speelgroepie want hoe meer jou kind dit hoor, hoe makliker is dit om dit lewendig te hou.

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