Skills and work experience assessment with Diploma but use BTech degree for EOI

[Basil1]

Hi all,

 

History:

I hold a Degree of Bachelor of Technology (Civil), completed in July 2018.  

 

Qualification and work experience assessment:

I would like to use my National Diploma for the Qualification and Work Experience assessment, through VETASSESS.  The reason being that I have 3-4 years work experience since graduating my ND and thus I'd be awarded the 5 points. 

 

EOI:

Whence submitting my EOI, I would like to state my Degree as highest qualification to claim the 15 points.

 

Question:

Can I do the above? (Claim 5 points under ND work experience,  but then claim the 15 points for my degree.) I believe the processes are independent of one another and even if I haven't assessed my degree the case officer assigned to my EOI would perform his/her own due diligence when awarding points. 

 

Any clarification would be greatly appreciated. 

 

All the best with your journeys! 

 

Regards.

[frosty]

Under which Skilled Occupation are you applying?

 

From my understanding you would need to have your degree assessed as well. The assessing authority is responsible to determine if your qualification is comparable to Australian equivalent. You cannot claim points for a qualification before first having it assessed. I may stand corrected.

 

What National Diploma do you have? Is it also in the Civil field? Your skilled employment needs to be relevant to your nominated occupation.

 

You should also just be aware that some assessing authorities don’t always recognise all of your work experience. ACS is known to deduct a few years of relevant work experience.

 

 

Edited December 12, 2018 by frosty

[Basil1]

Hi @frosty

 

Thanks for your reply.

 

4 hours ago, frosty said:

Under which Skilled Occupation are you applying?

 

189 or 190

 

4 hours ago, frosty said:

From my understanding you would need to have your degree assessed as well. The assessing authority is responsible to determine if your qualification is comparable to Australian equivalent. You cannot claim points for a qualification before first having it assessed. I may stand corrected.

 

I thought as much too. However I read the following (please see below link)

 

https://www.pomsinoz.com/topic/121882-eoi-help-claiming-education-points/

 

 

5 hours ago, frosty said:

What National Diploma do you have? Is it also in the Civil field? Your skilled employment needs to be relevant to your nominated occupation.

 

Yes, Nd: Engineering Civil.

My skilled employment has been for a civil and structural consulting engineering firm in SA.

 

5 hours ago, frosty said:

You should also just be aware that some assessing authorities don’t always recognise all of your work experience. ACS is known to deduct a few years of relevant work experience.

 

I have heard such regarding VETASSESS as well. That they may indeed deduct the first year as a "training" period and so if I can do my work assessment using my ND and claim points on my EOI for my degree I could wait for my fourth year of experience to hopefully then claim the 5 points for the 3-4 years skilled experience. 

 

My understanding of my original post is that I could get my skilled work assessed as a technician if I cleverly word my work duties to suit the ANZSCO job description. (especially since my payslip still states technician even though I'm a technologist) 

 

Is this all making sense or am I trying to find a loophole where there may not be one!!

[frosty]

Understand what you are saying. Sorry, should have elaborated, what I was asking is what is your nominated occupation? The reason I was asking was that I was wondering why you are choosing not to have your Skills Assessment done with your Degree, and rather your ND? If your nominated occupation is Civil Engineer/Technologist you will need to have your Assessment done by Engineers Australia. Where did you obtain your degree?

[Basil1]

My apologies! 

My nominated occupation is Engineering Technologist, but if I use my ND it's Civil Engineering Technician. Both are on the MLTSSL with different territories nominating either one.

 

The reason I want to use my ND for the work experience is to try and gain 5 extra points on my EOI.  If I get my degree assessed with Engineers Australia I cannot claim any points for work experience as I won't have more than 3 years since graduation. 

 

Maybe I'm not understanding the whole process as well as I should?

 

Thanks for your insight. 

[frosty]

It is a difficult one. Just remember if you nominate an occupation your employment needs to be relevant to that specific occupation, so it is crucial to nominate the correct occupation. Is your work experience relevant to Engineering Technologist or Civil Engineering Technician? Sorry for the stupid question, but I don’t know the difference between the two.

 

The only reason I suggest to have the Degree Assessment done is to ensure that it is in fact recognised as such in Australia. If you were to claim points for a qualification and it is found that your qualification is not reconised in Australia your application will be rejected as you have over claimed points in your EOI.

Edited December 12, 2018 by frosty

[Basil1]

Hi @frosty,

 

As far as the job scopes go, a civil engineering technician and civil engineering technologist do one in the same thing, however, as a technologist one takes on more roles and responsibilities. Having said that I know of a few older technicians whom have 40+ years experience who are in top tier management and are capable of doing more than a technologist. What I'm trying to say is that the jobs are very closely related.

 

I reached out to one of the resident agents and asked the question. If you're interested, please follow the link below.