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Hi All,
Is there any update about the 143 visa processing time? I can hear some rumors about changing the tracking system to the fast processing so that all outstanding visas be granted soon. is this news correct?
On the other hand do we still know about the next financial year budget for parent visas? is this again increasing to at least 7000 visa per year?

As I mentioned before I applied for my parents on June 2017 but I don't know what would be the estimated time I still need to wait to see them :(

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16 hours ago, Sahba said:

Hi All,
Is there any update about the 143 visa processing time? I can hear some rumors about changing the tracking system to the fast processing so that all outstanding visas be granted soon. is this news correct?
On the other hand do we still know about the next financial year budget for parent visas? is this again increasing to at least 7000 visa per year?

As I mentioned before I applied for my parents on June 2017 but I don't know what would be the estimated time I still need to wait to see them :(

 

The Dept of Home Affairs usually announce the quotas during the budget next month.

The processing dates table was updated on the 16th April and  they are still stating processing 143 Applications lodged "Lodged May 2016"

 

 

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I just looked at the new budget for 2021-22 seems no changes made for parents visas so this year also would be limited to max 4500. Is it correct?

I am very disappointed ☹️ 

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On 5/13/2021 at 12:57 PM, Sahba said:

I just looked at the new budget for 2021-22 seems no changes made for parents visas so this year also would be limited to max 4500. Is it correct?

I am very disappointed ☹️ 

 

The split within the family visas has not yet been provided.

Be aware that the 4500 figure 2020-21 included both the on and offshore contributory, non-contributory and investor stream parent visas - not just the 143 visas.

 

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Thank you for your feedback.  Has there been any movement with the 143’s at all?  Are we still sitting on May 2016? 

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It is still on May 2016.  I'm May 2016, and I was informed that the quota for 2020 had been filled.  The next intake will be reviewed in July 2021

2 hours ago, JennyLeigh said:

Thank you for your feedback.  Has there been any movement with the 143’s at all?  Are we still sitting on May 2016? 

 

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Just for information as this impacts very much on the speed of processing and will let you see why it takes so long to go through each month and the processing times extend.

The number of 143 visa applications lodged in 2016/17 was 19,787 

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10 hours ago, JennyLeigh said:

Thank you for your feedback.  Has there been any movement with the 143’s at all?  Are we still sitting on May 2016? 

Hi, we applied in July 2018 and have just received a request from Home Affairs for more info (form 54 family details) Is this a big step forward? We’d almost given up on hearing from them 😊

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It could mean that they’re requesting some missed documentation in the ‘Assessment Stage’ as the dates line up..? 
 

These processing dates are a snap shot of Feb 2021 though so they may be slightly behind on assessments as well .. Hmm

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On 2/15/2021 at 12:39 PM, JenMac said:

When did you apply for your visa?

I applied in May 2016.  I have since had a response saying that they've met their quota for 2020 intake, and that I'll hear from them towards the end of June / early July

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We applied for 143 for my single mum in August 2018 and just got a queue date letter, is this good news? 

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Just received queue date letter for my mom who applied in Aug 2018, so that’s moved a little. 

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My mom applied May 2018 and has not received a queue date letter? What is this for?

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Im not sure if the process has changed but she got a letter and it seems to align with that dates posted above in the grid. “Queue Assessment” ? 

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On 5/28/2021 at 8:19 PM, Sassyninja22 said:

Im not sure if the process has changed but she got a letter and it seems to align with that dates posted above in the grid. “Queue Assessment” ? 

Hi Sassyninja. Was this a letter via post or email? Just trying to figure out if we have missed something from our end ?

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Hi guys, 

 

I applied the 143 CPV for my parents and my sibling as a dependent child on July 2017. He was 21 at the time.

At the current intake, it seems it is going to take 5+ years until my application is reached.

Does this mean my sibling  will no longer be eligible as a dependent child anymore by the time of visa decision? Is there anything we can do?

 

Thank you.

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Update: a few people have mentioned receiving 'Queue dates' and in the wider community concerns about why some applications have received queue date letters and others not.  Our industry provider (Migration Institute of Australia) has clarified this with the Department who have explained that 'applications lodged prior to 1 June 2018 have automatically been allocated a queue date that is the same as the date of lodgement'.

Processing Dates: updated as of 04 Jun 2021

 

Temporary to Permanent

Contributory Parent (143) + Contributory Aged Parent (864)*

Contributory Parent (Temp) (173) + Contributory Aged Parent (Temp) (884)*

Parent (103) + Aged Parent (804)**

Acknowledge New Application

26 May 2021

Queue Assessment

N/A

Lodged Aug 2018

Lodged Aug 2018

Lodged Jan 2019

Visa Assessment

May 2021

Lodged May 2016

Lodged May 2016

Date Queued Oct 2010

 

 

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On 6/7/2021 at 8:42 AM, TeeTMI said:

Update: a few people have mentioned receiving 'Queue dates' and in the wider community concerns about why some applications have received queue date letters and others not.  Our industry provider (Migration Institute of Australia) has clarified this with the Department who have explained that 'applications lodged prior to 1 June 2018 have automatically been allocated a queue date that is the same as the date of lodgement'.

Processing Dates: updated as of 04 Jun 2021

 

 

 

 

 

Temporary to Permanent

 

Contributory Parent (143) + Contributory Aged Parent (864)*

 

Contributory Parent (Temp) (173) + Contributory Aged Parent (Temp) (884)*

 

Parent (103) + Aged Parent (804)**

 

Acknowledge New Application

 

26 May 2021

 

Queue Assessment

 

N/A

 

Lodged Aug 2018

 

Lodged Aug 2018

 

Lodged Jan 2019

 

Visa Assessment

 

May 2021

 

Lodged May 2016

 

Lodged May 2016

 

Date Queued Oct 2010

 

 

 

 

Thank you!!!

 

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Has anyone been following the enquiry into visas, including parent visas?

 

https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Senate/Legal_and_Constitutional_Affairs/FamilyandPartnerVisas

 

You can watch the recent hearing here: https://parlview.aph.gov.au/mediaPlayer.php?videoID=546410&operation_mode=parlview

 

I must say, I am feeling a little despondent. We applied in 2018, and at the time we expected about 3 to 4 years wait. At this rate, we have another 5 to 7 years to wait... thanks to the department decreasing processing visas for all parents to half what it was before the pandemic... and yet ramping up partner visas. Very disappointing.

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We applied in July 2018 and are also feeling very disappointed about the lack of information and the lengthy waiting time.  We also thought it would take 3-4 years - which was a long time, but manageable.  However, the goal posts have been moved so many times even before Covid, that I think 5-7 years could be optimistic.  Unless there is a change of policy in our favour we're in for a very long wait.  Unfortunately, as we get older passing medicals could become an issue 😞

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18 hours ago, Carole said:

We applied in July 2018 and are also feeling very disappointed about the lack of information and the lengthy waiting time.  We also thought it would take 3-4 years - which was a long time, but manageable.  However, the goal posts have been moved so many times even before Covid, that I think 5-7 years could be optimistic.  Unless there is a change of policy in our favour we're in for a very long wait.  Unfortunately, as we get older passing medicals could become an issue 😞

 

Hopefully the current government gets voted out in the next election, and a more migration friendly government will be voted in.

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The Contributory Parent 143 Visa was originally introduced to fast track permanent residency in Australia for parents to be reunited with children already resident in Australia in exchange for a two instalments totalling  AUD 47825 per person.  Originally based on the annual cap of 7500 Contributory Parent 143 Visa places per annum and the lower number of applications in the queue processing time and grant of this visa would normally have been within 2 to 2.5 years of the application being made. Unfortunately the number of applications for this visa have increased over the years resulting in a greater number of applications in the queue at the end of each migration year. In addition to this the annual cap of Contributory  Parent 143 Visa places to be granted each year has fallen from a high of 7500 places in 2009/2010 to 3600 in 2020/21 and 2021/2022 migration years which further extends the time for the visa to be granted. The delays are further compounded due to the fact that since 2016/2017 migration year onwards the number of visas granted in a migration year have been less than the annual cap whereas prior to this visas granted always matched the annual cap.

 

To put this into perspective as of 30th October 2020  49688  Contributory  Parent 143 Visas were outstanding to be processed for visa applications made between June 2016 and September 2020. 

 

Based on a visa application being made in September 2020 with a queue of 49688 with an annual cap of 3600 to be granted you would be looking at nearly 13.8 years from application being made to visa being granted.  (Maybe slightly less if some applications were withdrawn or not approved) .  This really is at all odds for applying for Contributory Parent 143 Visa in the first place at a high cost of AUD 47825 per person to be able to gain fast track permanent residency in Australia.

 

The Australian government really need to address this issue and close off any new Contributory Parent 143 Visa applications and commit clearing the current backlog within 2-3 years and introduce legislation after this where new applications made are cleared within 12-24 months of application being made as it is unfair to charge such a high cost for the Contributory Parent 143 Visa and expect people to wait so long to be reunited with their children and grandchildren.

 

Outstanding Contributory Parent Visa applications and outstanding Non Contributory Parent Visa applications at the end of each migratory year used to be reported in the annual report for each migration year published by the government at https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/  however since migration years 2018/2019 and 2019/2020 they have not provided this detail and now only report the total number of Parent Visa applications outstanding to remove focus that the outstanding queue for Contributory Parent 143 Visa applications is becoming larger year on year.

 

The links for various information are shown at the end of this message.

 

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https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2021L00511

 

https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2019L01496

 

https://www.gm-parent-visas.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FA-201000222-R1-document-released-1.pdf

 

https://www.gm-parent-visas.com/about-us/blog/

 

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-statistics/statistics/visa-statistics/live/migration-program

 

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/report-migration-program-2019-20.pdf

 

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/report-migration-program-2018-19.pdf

 

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/report-migration-program-2017-18.pdf

 

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/report-on-migration-program-2016-17.pdf

 

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/2015-16-migration-programme-report.pdf

 

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/2014-15-Migration-Programme-Report.pdf

 

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/report-migration-programme-2013-14.pdf

 

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/report-on-migration-program-2012-13.pdf

 

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/report-on-migration-program-2011-12.pdf

 

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/report-on-migration-program-2010-11.pdf

 

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/report-on-migration-program-2009-10.pdf

 

https://www.aph.gov.au/~/media/4D9CDCC301C64613A3A5CB3E44308D8B.ashx

 

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The Contributory Parent 143 Visa was originally introduced to fast track permanent residency in Australia for parents to be reunited with children already resident in Australia in exchange for a two instalments totalling  AUD 47825 per person.  Originally based on the annual cap of 7500 Contributory Parent 143 Visa places per annum and the lower number of applications in the queue processing time and grant of this visa would normally have been within 2 to 2.5 years of the application being made. Unfortunately the number of applications for this visa have increased over the years resulting in a greater number of applications in the queue at the end of each migration year. In addition to this the annual cap of Contributory  Parent 143 Visa places to be granted each year has fallen from a high of 7500 places in 2009/2010 to 3600 in 2020/21 and 2021/2022 migration years which further extends the time for the visa to be granted. The delays are further compounded due to the fact that since 2016/2017 migration year onwards the number of visas granted in a migration year have been less than the annual cap whereas prior to this visas granted always matched the annual cap.

 

To put this into perspective as of 30th October 2020  49688  Contributory  Parent 143 Visas were outstanding to be processed for visa applications made between June 2016 and September 2020. 

 

Based on a visa application being made in September 2020 with a queue of 49688 with an annual cap of 3600 to be granted you would be looking at nearly 13.8 years from application being made to visa being granted.  (Maybe slightly less if some applications were withdrawn or not approved) .  This really is at all odds for applying for Contributory Parent 143 Visa in the first place at a high cost of AUD 47825 per person to be able to gain fast track permanent residency in Australia.

 

The Australian government really need to address this issue and close off any new Contributory Parent 143 Visa applications and commit clearing the current backlog within 2-3 years and introduce legislation after this where new applications made are cleared within 12-24 months of application being made as it is unfair to charge such a high cost for the Contributory Parent 143 Visa and expect people to wait so long to be reunited with their children and grandchildren.

 

Outstanding Contributory Parent Visa applications and outstanding Non Contributory Parent Visa applications at the end of each migratory year used to be reported in the annual report for each migration year published by the government at https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/  however since migration years 2018/2019 and 2019/2020 they have not provided this detail and now only report the total number of Parent Visa applications outstanding to remove focus that the outstanding queue for Contributory Parent 143 Visa applications is becoming larger year on year.

 

The links for various information are shown at the end of this message.

 

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image.png.784439953ae806ead22c7f9582a80b

 

image.png.9a2a7173d7d8795258260a1a333460

 

https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2021L00511

 

https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2019L01496

 

https://www.gm-parent-visas.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FA-201000222-R1-document-released-1.pdf

 

https://www.gm-parent-visas.com/about-us/blog/

 

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-statistics/statistics/visa-statistics/live/migration-program

 

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/report-migration-program-2019-20.pdf

 

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/report-migration-program-2018-19.pdf

 

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/report-migration-program-2017-18.pdf

 

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/report-on-migration-program-2016-17.pdf

 

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/2015-16-migration-programme-report.pdf

 

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/2014-15-Migration-Programme-Report.pdf

 

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/report-migration-programme-2013-14.pdf

 

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/report-on-migration-program-2012-13.pdf

 

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/report-on-migration-program-2011-12.pdf

 

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/report-on-migration-program-2009-10.pdf

 

https://www.aph.gov.au/~/media/4D9CDCC301C64613A3A5CB3E44308D8B.ashx

 

The shortfall on grant of available visas is likely to be deliberate and connected to increased pension and healthcare costs that Australia as a nation are going to be exposed to due to it having an ageing population and the people living longer.

 

There is a rapid change in the ratio of working age people to those over 65 in Australia.

 

In 1981-82 there were 6.6 people of working age for every person aged over 65. Today there are 4 working people of working age for every person over 65 and by 2060-161 there will only be 2.7 people of working age to every person aged over 65 based on projections.

 

This presents the government with some challenges as the the proportion of Australians in retirement is projected to increase significantly in the next 40 years whilst those or working age shrink. As the life expectancy in Australia is one of the highest in the world and people are living longer more money will need to be spent on health, pension and aged care services putting a greater strain on government finances. There will be a greater strain on finances because there will be fewer people paying income tax (as a proportion of the population) and more people relying on aged care and health spending.

 

This is also probably the reason why annual143 CPV allocation/cap in each migration year has been reduced from 7500 to 3600 unlike the partner visa allocation which has increased by a massive amount from 39799 places in 2019/20 to 72300 places in 2020/21 and 2021/2022 ( increase of 32501 places each year).

 

The reason the partner visa allocation has been increased is to ensure that individuals who have gained Australian residency through job skills/talent route who are essential to growth of the Australian economy remain in Australia by ensuring that their partners can also gain residency as well to be with them. If the timescale for partners to gain entry was too high there would be a greater risk that individuals that had gained Australian residency through job skills/talent route would not remain in Australia which would then have a negative impact on the Australian economy. 

 

It is somewhat disappointing that the government does not appear to appreciate that parents being reunited with their children and grandchildren who are resident in Australia would more than likely give positive benefits to the Australian economy due to the fact that they could look after grandchildren allowing both parents to work more. In addition some parents migrating to Australia would still be at an age where they could work which would also contribute to the economy. Parents who were migrating to Australia and of an age where they were retired would still bring with them assets and pensions which would be spent in Australia also contributing to the economy. 

 

Ideally the annual allocation/cap for 143 CPV needs to be increased to clear the current backlog in a shorter period of time. Whether this will happen under the current government remains to be seen !!

 

 

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On 7/6/2021 at 4:13 AM, AJM22 said:

The Contributory Parent 143 Visa was originally introduced to fast track permanent residency in Australia for parents to be reunited with children already resident in Australia in exchange for a two instalments totalling  AUD 47825 per person.  Originally based on the annual cap of 7500 Contributory Parent 143 Visa places per annum and the lower number of applications in the queue processing time and grant of this visa would normally have been within 2 to 2.5 years of the application being made. Unfortunately the number of applications for this visa have increased over the years resulting in a greater number of applications in the queue at the end of each migration year. In addition to this the annual cap of Contributory  Parent 143 Visa places to be granted each year has fallen from a high of 7500 places in 2009/2010 to 3600 in 2020/21 and 2021/2022 migration years which further extends the time for the visa to be granted. The delays are further compounded due to the fact that since 2016/2017 migration year onwards the number of visas granted in a migration year have been less than the annual cap whereas prior to this visas granted always matched the annual cap.

 

To put this into perspective as of 30th October 2020  49688  Contributory  Parent 143 Visas were outstanding to be processed for visa applications made between June 2016 and September 2020. 

 

Based on a visa application being made in September 2020 with a queue of 49688 with an annual cap of 3600 to be granted you would be looking at nearly 13.8 years from application being made to visa being granted.  (Maybe slightly less if some applications were withdrawn or not approved) .  This really is at all odds for applying for Contributory Parent 143 Visa in the first place at a high cost of AUD 47825 per person to be able to gain fast track permanent residency in Australia.

 

The Australian government really need to address this issue and close off any new Contributory Parent 143 Visa applications and commit clearing the current backlog within 2-3 years and introduce legislation after this where new applications made are cleared within 12-24 months of application being made as it is unfair to charge such a high cost for the Contributory Parent 143 Visa and expect people to wait so long to be reunited with their children and grandchildren.

 

Outstanding Contributory Parent Visa applications and outstanding Non Contributory Parent Visa applications at the end of each migratory year used to be reported in the annual report for each migration year published by the government at https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/  however since migration years 2018/2019 and 2019/2020 they have not provided this detail and now only report the total number of Parent Visa applications outstanding to remove focus that the outstanding queue for Contributory Parent 143 Visa applications is becoming larger year on year.

 

The links for various information are shown at the end of this message.

 

image.png.28ecbd538183f77bd916daa6517607

 

 

image.png.784439953ae806ead22c7f9582a80b

 

image.png.9a2a7173d7d8795258260a1a333460

 

https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2021L00511

 

https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2019L01496

 

https://www.gm-parent-visas.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FA-201000222-R1-document-released-1.pdf

 

https://www.gm-parent-visas.com/about-us/blog/

 

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-statistics/statistics/visa-statistics/live/migration-program

 

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/report-migration-program-2019-20.pdf

 

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/report-migration-program-2018-19.pdf

 

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/report-migration-program-2017-18.pdf

 

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/report-on-migration-program-2016-17.pdf

 

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/2015-16-migration-programme-report.pdf

 

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/2014-15-Migration-Programme-Report.pdf

 

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/report-migration-programme-2013-14.pdf

 

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/report-on-migration-program-2012-13.pdf

 

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/report-on-migration-program-2011-12.pdf

 

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/report-on-migration-program-2009-10.pdf

 

https://www.aph.gov.au/~/media/4D9CDCC301C64613A3A5CB3E44308D8B.ashx

 

The shortfall on grant of available visas is likely to be deliberate and connected to increased pension and healthcare costs that Australia as a nation are going to be exposed to due to it having an ageing population and the people living longer.

 

There is a rapid change in the ratio of working age people to those over 65 in Australia.

 

In 1981-82 there were 6.6 people of working age for every person aged over 65. Today there are 4 working people of working age for every person over 65 and by 2060-161 there will only be 2.7 people of working age to every person aged over 65 based on projections.

 

This presents the government with some challenges as the the proportion of Australians in retirement is projected to increase significantly in the next 40 years whilst those or working age shrink. As the life expectancy in Australia is one of the highest in the world and people are living longer more money will need to be spent on health, pension and aged care services putting a greater strain on government finances. There will be a greater strain on finances because there will be fewer people paying income tax (as a proportion of the population) and more people relying on aged care and health spending.

 

This is also probably the reason why annual143 CPV allocation/cap in each migration year has been reduced from 7500 to 3600 unlike the partner visa allocation which has increased by a massive amount from 39799 places in 2019/20 to 72300 places in 2020/21 and 2021/2022 ( increase of 32501 places each year).

 

The reason the partner visa allocation has been increased is to ensure that individuals who have gained Australian residency through job skills/talent route who are essential to growth of the Australian economy remain in Australia by ensuring that their partners can also gain residency as well to be with them. If the timescale for partners to gain entry was too high there would be a greater risk that individuals that had gained Australian residency through job skills/talent route would not remain in Australia which would then have a negative impact on the Australian economy. 

 

It is somewhat disappointing that the government does not appear to appreciate that parents being reunited with their children and grandchildren who are resident in Australia would more than likely give positive benefits to the Australian economy due to the fact that they could look after grandchildren allowing both parents to work more. In addition some parents migrating to Australia would still be at an age where they could work which would also contribute to the economy. Parents who were migrating to Australia and of an age where they were retired would still bring with them assets and pensions which would be spent in Australia also contributing to the economy. 

 

Ideally the annual allocation/cap for 143 CPV needs to be increased to clear the current backlog in a shorter period of time. Whether this will happen under the current government remains to be seen !!

 

 

Hi @AJM22,

 

Thank you so much for your detailed analysis. It is very disheartening to look at these numbers. 

 

Could I please confirm one of your calculations ? You are suggesting that if you applied for 143 Visa in June 2016 it would take 6 months to get it. But this ignores the fact that there were already about 30,000 people in the que as at 30 June 2016. So the real wait is around 8 years (30,000/3,600 assuming that only 3,600 visa are granted since June 2016, which is lower than actual numbers from from 2016 to 2019). If my interpretation of your numbers is correct and someone has applied in September 2017 (using actual visa granted and an assumption of 3600 visas granted from 2020 onwards) they will get the visa in mid 2029, which is equivalent to around 12 years of waiting period. Is that correct ?

 

Thanks Again !

 

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