Popular Post luckytobehere Posted January 20, 2013 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 HeyI've been teaching English to 2nd language speakers in Australia for 24 years. Nowadays I ONLY do exam preparation: IELTS and Cambridge advanced.The IELTS reading is notoriously difficult. I was a bit perturbed when I read some advice on one of these forums that to get a good score in the Reading you should make sure you read everything before attempting the questions. This is NOT what we advocate, even though some English First Language speakers may be able to do it. I suggest you follow this advice:1. SKIM the text, i.e. look for the GIST (main idea) of the text by scrutinising the heading (and any pictures and their captions), as well as the FIRST SENTENCE of every paragraph, since this is often the TOPIC SENTENCE, which tells you what's in the paragraph. Now you have LOCATED INFORMATION. This step should only take about 5 minutes.2. Look at the questions carefully and UNDERLINE key words. You may be surprised how many you can already answer from your 5 minutes' skimming! PREDICT what kind of answer you need: is it a noun, verb or adjective? Is it a number, distance, amount, person or place name?3. Now SCAN the text for the answers. Proper nouns, dollar/pound signs are in capitals, and surprisingly easy to pick out.Remember that TIME IS YOUR ENEMY. Unless you are reading purely for pleasure, this is a reading skill we develop in real life, whether looking for interesting stuff in the newspaper or referring to university textbooks.Some other tips. In the True/False/Not Given (Yes/No/Does Not Say) section, do NOT use your own knowledge or logic. Since it's a reading exercise, they are only interested in what is in the text. Also, look out for "strong" words like "all, every, no, none, always, never": they are never true, since there are always exceptions. Never leave a question unanswered, especially in the multiple choice. They do not subtract marks for wrong answers. Read the instructions very carefully, e.g. Write no more than two words and/or a number. Don't exceed it! Finally, make sure you've answered 40 questions. Sometimes the last 2 or 3 questions are on the back page.I wish you the best of luck. You can do it! Hou die blinkkant bo!Witz 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 Luckytobehere, I asked Jordy to start a new topic for your reply on IELTS in another thread. I felt that it was excellent information, which is now handy to everyone, not just the people reading the thread that you originally posted it in.Thank you for the answers, I am sure they will be really valuable to all still having to do their exam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werns Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 In the reading section I found that the "True/False/Not Given (Yes/No/Does Not Say)" section bugged me.There would often be questions that when I look at it plainly I would think of it one way, but if I scrutinized it a bit more I would think that it would be the other answer (usually between No and Does Not Say).After doing several practice tests I realized that my initial plain thinking answer was always correct.So, I guess what I'm saying is - don't over-think things too much. The answers are usually pretty obvious. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 In the reading section I found that the "True/False/Not Given (Yes/No/Does Not Say)" section bugged me.There would often be questions that when I look at it plainly I would think of it one way, but if I scrutinized it a bit more I would think that it would be the other answer (usually between No and Does Not Say).After doing several practice tests I realized that my initial plain thinking answer was always correct.So, I guess what I'm saying is - don't over-think things too much. The answers are usually pretty obvious.Pretty much what i realised after the first time I wrote it. I was trying so hard to not get it wrong, that I over-analysed it, while the first simple answer is the right one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sianvz Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 Luckytobehere, I think you're referring to me that said to read the passage carefully the first time round. I personally felt that this would have maybe helped me because I did the skimming thing and I didn't do well in my reading section. I think maybe because sometimes they try to confuse you so if you didn't read properly you may choose the wrong answer because it's a trick question.The one passage in my reading test was such a complicated and confusing article about meteor showers and comets and all sorts of dates and ambiguous descriptions of about 6 scientists and their opinions. The paragraphs were numbered, and the questions were in the form of statements and you had to specify which paragraph of the passage that statement was in. I had skimmed initially, but I had to go back and read so carefully again because I could not recall which paragraph it was in, then I got myself all confused because it appeared to me to be in more than one paragraph. So I feel perhaps if I read properly before looking at the questions, I would have remembered where these statements were clearly mentioned without being influenced by knowing the questions in my head and I wouldn't have had to go back and read again and confuse myself.For example (and I'm trying to remember here so it may not be 100% accurate) the statement was "A theory that was initially discarded", but then the passage had multiple scenarios, one where they spoke about people not agreeing with one scientists initial theory, then another where they nobody paid attention to one scientists theory initially, then one scientist initially wondered if it was this theory but thought it couldn't be. Now which one of these sentences refer to "A theory that was originally discarded"? Discarded by who?I don't know that there's necessarily one tactic that works for all passages/people. But what I meant by reading the passage properly the first time is so that you are ready to answer the questions first time round so you don't go back and over-analyse. Perhaps I am just not good at skimming... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSalter Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 I read all the passages thoroughly and then skimmed after reading the question. Fortunately I read fairly fast.It was the trick questions in the listening that got me, they rest was fine however the writing was stressful as I am not used to writing by hand and had to revise essay structure and letter structure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greggle Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 I am studying for my IELTS test at the moment (I write at the beginning of Feb) ... and so am most grateful for all the tips and advice. Thank you and keep em coming! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bams Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Printed this whole thread for my hubby, he needs to get an 8 and is SO nervous.Please keep the advice and tips goming. Where can I get some test examples or any work for him to work through / study??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSalter Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 I googled for example listening, reading and writting.For listening, make notes on each answer but listen to the whole bit as they have some trick questions. Reading is fairly straight forward especially if you can read fast. One section deals with matching paragraph headlines to paragraphs.Writing was my most difficult due to having to learn formal letter structure and essay structure again and worse of all writing by hand. Make sure you get the min required number of words.Speaking, avoid all slang. Say yes not Ja. Use synonyms and metaphors ie. show that you have reasonable vocabulary.I also went to youtube and watched some lessons and example videos there.I did well in everything except listening, only got a 7.5 and so I don't get the 8 in each section qualification (I wrote twice and got an 8.0 average both times) and lose half the points and thus am now going to stick with the PR190 instead of the PR189 I was hoping for.I am not going to put myself through a third attempt, I will just have to live for 2 years where ever accepts me with state nomination, which is fine as the primary objective is just to get into Oz.btw. I was looking at Ozzie slang and about 70% of it is the same as English slang here, well at least for me it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delboy2oz Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Good luck to all who are doing IELTS today in SA. I did it in Sydney today, 2nd attempt, 1st attempt in Cape Town, found it way easier 2nd time. Firstly I knew exactly what to expect and the format, and put in lots of practise this time round. Would be interested to hear what the writing 2nd question was in SA, Give it horns! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greggle Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Thanks Delboy. I wrote / spoke it today. It's certainly a test that needs plenty of prep!It's all a bit of a blur now after several hours of IELTS overload but, from what I recall, the second question on the written test was something to the tune of "evaluate the statement that the politeness and respect of young people today is influenced primarily by society OR by the family". The question I was asked in my oral was to describe a something that I learned in mathematics at primary / intermediate school. Talk about having to wipe away the cobwebs and access my long-term memory!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyLaw Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 Hi all.Is it absolutely necessary to do the IELTS exam. If you were schooled on English, went to University and studied and wrote exams in English, and have been working in an English office environment for the last few years, will this not suffice?thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sianvz Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 Hi all.Is it absolutely necessary to do the IELTS exam. If you were schooled on English, went to University and studied and wrote exams in English, and have been working in an English office environment for the last few years, will this not suffice?thanksIf you are the main applicant of the visa you must have at least competent english. This can only be proven with an IELTS score of at least 6 in each band or if you hold a valid passport of a predominantly english speaking country like UK/New Zealand and a few others, but not SA. English language ability carries a lot of weight in your application, so if you hold a qualifying passport for competent english but need extra points for your visa you can write the IELTS to boost your points. If you can get a minimum of 7 in each band you get 10 points for proficient english or minimum of 8 in each band you get 20 points for superior english. If you don't hold a qualifying passport then you must write the IELTS and get at least 6 in each band.If you are the secondary applicant ie partner or a dependent 18 years or older, then you only need to prove functional english (unless you are claiming points for your partner's skills then you must also prove competent english like the main applicant). To prove functional English you can also use a qualifying passport, or you can provide a letter from an institution confirming the years you completed a course or schooling taught in english (there are requirements here, will post the link tomorrow), or you can do the IELTS and get a minimum of 4.5 in each band.Hope that helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynnie Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 Hi all.Is it absolutely necessary to do the IELTS exam. If you were schooled on English, went to University and studied and wrote exams in English, and have been working in an English office environment for the last few years, will this not suffice?thanksYou have to obtain letters from the High School and University to confirm that the language of tuition was in English - then you may not have to do the ielts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordy Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 Hi all.Is it absolutely necessary to do the IELTS exam. If you were schooled on English, went to University and studied and wrote exams in English, and have been working in an English office environment for the last few years, will this not suffice?thanksI think it totally depends on which visa you are applying for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreaL Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 We did the ENS visa ( now the 186) and didn't have to do IELTs, we didn't even have to supply a letter saying that we were educated in English, and even though we applied using South African passports, I think the fact that we were both born in the UK and only checked English as our home language helped.On the other hand, my husbands brother did do the IELT's on the advice of his agent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBrough Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 As a secondary applicant I have letters from my High School and University saying I was educated in English. As has been said, it may be required for your skills assessment. My Wife has a postgraduate degree as an English teacher and she still had to do the Academic IELTS for her qualifications assessment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sianvz Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 (edited) The info I provided is for General Skilled Migration. Employer sponsorship visas mean you have a job already so there are lots of things that are not required because if you weren't qualified and couldn't speak English you wouldn't be offered the job.So it all depends on the visa and as mentioned above whether your occupation requires the Academic Training. If you can specify which visa that would help to give a more accurate answer. Edited February 26, 2013 by sianvz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZuricaR Posted March 9, 2013 Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 Hi all, We are doing our IELTS today!! Really hoping all goes well for us. And our police clearance also back this week, things are going well. Good luck to everyone doing the tests this week. May you all score off the charts :-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojak77 Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 Thanks Wits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reeds Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 HiIf you have permanent residency in Australia and want to sponsor your parents to emigrate from South Africa to live with you in Australia, do your parents also need to do the IELTS exam?Thanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAYT Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 Hi everyone,For great IELTS Study Material, visit this website: http://www.dcielts.com 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reeds Posted April 16, 2013 Report Share Posted April 16, 2013 If you want to work in Australia on a 457 visa, do you still need to do the IELTS exam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roelofjdutoit Posted May 2, 2013 Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 In the reading section I found that the "True/False/Not Given (Yes/No/Does Not Say)" section bugged me.There would often be questions that when I look at it plainly I would think of it one way, but if I scrutinized it a bit more I would think that it would be the other answer (usually between No and Does Not Say).After doing several practice tests I realized that my initial plain thinking answer was always correct.So, I guess what I'm saying is - don't over-think things too much. The answers are usually pretty obvious.Hi ThereWhere can I find some practise tests to do? Do you have a link or something where I can can find some practise tests please.Thanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynnie Posted May 2, 2013 Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 If you want to work in Australia on a 457 visa, do you still need to do the IELTS exam?If you are applying for a 457 you do not need to do Ielts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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