Where do the South Africans live?

[LeonF]

Following on from my post on Perth numbers I thought I would expand it to some of the other States. I used the 2011 census numbers and extracted the number of South Africans by birth.

First of all if you look at Australia there are 145,683 South Africans (0.7% of the population).

Broken down by State;

NSW - 40246 (0.6%)

QLD - 35449 (0.8%)

WA - 35328 (1.6%)

VIC - 24450 (0.5%)

SA - 6208 (0.4%)

Broken down by capital city

Greater Sydney - 33651(0.8%)

Greater Perth - 30291 (1.8%)

Greater Melbourne -21812 (0.5%)

Greater Brisbane - 19588 (0.9%)

Greater Adelaide - 5267

Greater Hobart - 825

Canberra - 749

Greater Darwin - 467

I won't bother with the rest. So NSW has the most South Africans, although WA has the greatest percentage by a long shot, no surprise there.

If you break down Greater Perth you get :

Mandurah - 2288 (1.5%)

Perth NE - 2583 (1.2%)

Pertn NW - 13008 (2.7%)

Perth SE - 5723 (1.3%)

Perth SW - 5640 (1.6%)

So this confirms what we know. The South Africans live in the North-western suburbs.

It looks as if the migration further north continues.

Some selected suburbs.

Jindalee - 108 (9.1% South African & 4.2% Afrikaans)

Iluka - 343 (7.5% & 2.5%)

Burns Beach - 114 (7.1% & 2.6%)

Mindarie - 492 (6.6% & 3.3%)

Ocean Reef - 414 (5.1% & 1.7%)

Darch - 281 (4.6% & 2.7%) , this is obviously the attraction of the local private school.

Duncraig - 634 (4.2% & 1.1%)

Hillarys - 434 (4.1% & 1%)

For Gtr Brisbane the numbers looks as follow:

Brisbane W - 3441 (2%)

Moreton Bay S - 2587 (1.5%)

Brisbane E - 2869 (1.4%)

Logan-Beaudesert - 1911 (0.7%)

Moreton Bay N - 1091 (0.5%)

Some selected suburbs in Brisbane W

Bellbowrie - 257 (4.7%)

Kenmore Hills - 109 (4.3%)

Kenmore - 271 (3.2%)

For Gtr Sydney the number are

Eastern suburbs - 6398 (2.6%)

North Sydney - 7728 (2.1%)

Baulkham Hills - 3168 (1.5%)

North Beach - 3017 (1.3%)

Central Coast - 1369 (0.4%)

Some selected suburbs in Eastern

Dover Heights - 555 (14.1%)

Rose Bay - 868 (9.2%)

Vaucluse - 563 (4.7%)

Some selected suburbs in North Sydney

St Ives - 1742 (11.2%)

Cherry brook - 565 (3%)

It looks as if the South Africans in Sydney are more concentrated. St Ives @ 1742 is the greatest number per suburb and Dover Heights at 14.1% the greatest concentration (in Australia?).

Do any of you know of other areas that have greater numbers?

[AndreaL]

Do you base your statistics on country of birth by sex or country of birth by arrival dates, I'd like to put paid to an urban legend that Mackay region has between 12 000 and 20 000 South Africans....I would think it is more like 1500.

And it seems we have 101 here in Moranbah, which is quite a lot as we only have around 7500 permanent residents.

[LeonF]

Do you base your statistics on country of birth by sex or country of birth by arrival dates, I'd like to put paid to an urban legend that Mackay region has between 12 000 and 20 000 South Africans....I would think it is more like 1500.

And it seems we have 101 here in Moranbah, which is quite a lot as we only have around 7500 permanent residents.

The former.

There are a lot of urban legends, most of which are way over the top.

[deroche]

Very interesting.

[LeonF]

The Australian Bureau of Statistics released the latest information last week which allows for an more exhaustive search on where the South Africans live. So I have added some more information below to expand on my previous post. The numbers only reflect where people where born and so would exclude people that grew up in South Africa but where born elsewhere.

The top 10 ten suburbs in Australia for South Africans by absolute numbers are:

1. St Ives,NSW - 1742

2. Canning Vale, WA - 1067

3. Dianella, WA - 869

4. Rose Bay, NSW - 866

5. Vaucluse, NSW - 743

6. Caulfield South, Vic - 694

7. Castle Hill, NSW - 655

8. Berwick, Vic - 645

9. Duncraig, WA - 631

10.North Lakes, Qld - 588

Some of these suburbs are some of the largest in Austalia (Berwick is the second largest and Castle Hill the 6th largest).

If you look at the numbers on a percentage basis the picture is a bit different. Note that I have excluded smaller suburbs with less than 300 peopls (else the likes of Spring Mountian,QLD tops the list where 3 of the 6 residents are South African).

1. Dover Heights, NSW - 14.1%

2. St Ives Chase, NSW - 12.0%

3. St Ives, NSW - 11.2%

4. Rose Bay, NSW - 9.2%

5. Jindalee, WA - 9.2%

6. Vaucluse, NSW - 8.2%

7. Iluka, WA - 7.5%

8. Burns Beach, WA - 7.0%

9. Dalyellup, WA - 6.7%

10. Mindarie, WA - 6.7%

For New South Wales top 10 by number are

1. St Ives (NSW) - 1742

2. Rose Bay (NSW) - 866

3. Vaucluse - 743

4. Castle Hill (NSW) - 655

5. Cherrybrook - 566

6. Dover Heights - 554

7. Wahroonga - 524

8. Bellevue Hill - 511

9. North Bondi - 485

10. Maroubra - 478

and NSW top 10 by percentage

1. Dover Heights - 14.1%

2. St Ives Chase - 12.0&

3. St Ives - 11.2%

4. Rose Bay - 9.2%

5. Vaucluse - 8.2%

6. North Bondi - 5.7%

7. North Wahroonga - 5.2%

8. Bellevue Hill - 4.7%

9. Point Piper - 4.1 %

10. Double Bay 3.5%

For WA the top 10 by number are

1. Canning Vale -1067

2. Dianella - 869

3. Duncraig - 631

4. Mindarie (WA) - 495

5.Dalyellup - 475

6. Currambine - 444

7. Hillarys - 432

8. Ocean Reef - 415

9. Baldivis - 399

10. Ellenbrook - 386

and WA top 10 by %

1. Jindalee - 9.2%

2. Iluka - 7.5%

3. Burns Beach - 7.0%

4. Dalyellup - 6.7%

5. Mindarie - 6.7%

6. Currambine - 6.6%

7. Harrisdale - 5.7%

8. Hannans - 5.6%

9. Ocean Reef - 5.1%

10. Piara Waters - 4.8%

For QLD the top 10 by number are

1. North Lakes - 588

2. Carindale - 470

3. Robina - 405

4. Buderim - 398

5. Forest Lake - 364

6. Chapel Hill (Qld) - 343

7. The Gap (Brisbane - Qld) - 334

8. Upper Coomera - 331

9. Hope Island - 326

10. Albany Creek - 321

and QLD top 10 by % are

1. Kirkwood - 6.3%

2. Moggill - 5.9%

3. Brookwater - 4.8%

4. Bellbowrie - 4.7%

5. Pullenvale - 4.5%

6. Dolphin Heads - 4.3%

7. Kenmore hills - 4.3%

8. Blacks Beach - 4.0%

9. Wakerley - 4.0%

10. Draper 4.0%

For Victoria the top 10 by number are

Caulfield South - 694

Berwick - 645

Point Cook - 511

Caulfield North - 496

Bentleigh East - 495

Doncaster East - 419

Rowville - 353

Templestowe - 318

Brighton East - 307

Caulfield - 303

and Victoria the top 10 by % are

1. Caulfield South - 6.2%

2. Caulfield - 5.9%

3. Sandhurst - 3.9%

4. Caulfield North 3.4%

5. Heatherton - 2.8%

6. Nangiloc - 2.7%

7. Bellbridge - 2.5%

8. Glen Huntly - 2.4%

9. Waterways - 2.3%

10. Brighton East - 1.9%

For South Australia the top 10 by number are

Hallett Cove - 216

Mawson Lakes - 144

Flagstaff Hill - 117

Roxby Downs - 105

Golden Grove - 90

Aberfoyle Park - 86

Mount Gambier - 75

Mount Barker (SA) - 74

Greenwith - 74

Sheidow Park - 69

and for South Australia the top 10% are

1. Stonyfell - 3.0%

2. Whyalle Jenkins - 2.9%

3. Greenhill - 2.8%

4. Roxby Downs - 2.2%

5. Parilla - 1.9%

6. Craigburn Farm - 1.9%

7. Marryatville - 1.8%

8. Hallett Cove - 1.8%

9. Urrbrae - 1.8%

Edited July 20, 2012 by LeonF

[Pippa]

Hi LeonF,

Great stats. What dataset did you use?

Pippa

[Bronwyn&Co]

Duh, I'm feeling a bit doff. Do the % stats mean, that, for eg 12% of St Ives is South African, or does it mean that 12% of the South Africans in total live in St Ives...? I suppose the former.

[LeonF]

Duh, I'm feeling a bit doff. Do the % stats mean, that, for eg 12% of St Ives is South African, or does it mean that 12% of the South Africans in total live in St Ives...? I suppose the former.

The former, 12% were born in South African.

Leon

[rozellem]

Yip, I walked through Dover Hights (in Sydney Eastern suburbs) yesterday and can confirm the 14% figure by all the Joburg English I would randomly hear on the streets. Its a mecca for South African Jews, doubt if you would hear Afrikaans. It is a lovely place but, you would need a number of millions behind you to even get your foot in the door. ps. we were doing our City2Surf dress rehearsal and the route goes right through it.

[LeonF]

Yip, I walked through Dover Hights (in Sydney Eastern suburbs) yesterday and can confirm the 14% figure by all the Joburg English I would randomly hear on the streets. Its a mecca for South African Jews, doubt if you would hear Afrikaans. It is a lovely place but, you would need a number of millions behind you to even get your foot in the door. ps. we were doing our City2Surf dress rehearsal and the route goes right through it.

That is clear if one looks at some of the other stats such as religion for this area. The Melbourne hotspots, Caulfield (north and south) appear to be the same demographic.

[LeonF]

Hi LeonF,

Great stats. What dataset did you use?

Pippa

I used the basic community data pack.

[LeonF]

A happy new year everyone

I thought I would add some stats on how Afrikaans is distributed in Australia. According to the 2011 numbers the following number of people indicated their home language to be Afrikaans.

Australia - 35031 or 24% of the RSA immigrant population (of course they don't all come from South Africa so the percentage will be a bit out).

NSW - 6229

Victoria - 4439

QLD - 10216

SA - 2079

WA - 10929

Tas - 359

The top ten suburbs in WA are:

Canning Vale - 339

Dalyellup - 272

Mindarie - 242

Butler - 187

Baldivis - 186

Ellenbrook - 186

Curambine - 181

Clarckson - 167

Darch - 167

Duncraig - 164

Quins Rock - 162.

[Gizmo]

I am surprised at the numbers - quite frankly I would have thought that the Perth NW suburbs numbers would be far higher. Honestly, it feels more like every third person here is South African.