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  1. Hi. Need clarity please... We have applied for a 489 SA which is currently being processed, we have since received an invite for a 190 NSW, which we want to apply for? So what happens now? 1. Does one override the other? 2. If yes, which one? 3. Will we have problems if we have a 489 granted when they start processing the 190? 4. Can they decline processing the 190, when they see we already have state sponsorship on 489? 5. If go and activate 489, and then 190 gets approved, how do we then activate the 190 if we are already onshore? Thanks
  2. Husky

    Our Numinous journey …

    Our Numinous journey … I love words. I love the meaning of words. I love the impact of words. Numinous (adj.) Origin: Latin Describing an experience that makes you fearful yet fascinated, awed yet attracted- the powerful, personal feeling of being overwhelmed and inspired One dad (an engineer), one mom (a possibilitarian), one daughter (17 and on youth exchange currently), one son (12 and already practicing an Aussie accent), three dogs (a Scottie, a Boston Terrier and a Golden Retriever – part of the family) and a numinous journey. This journal is a chronicle of our migration to Australia. It is there to remind us of every thought, feeling and decision along the way. It is there to acknowledge every person who helped or hindered our progress. It is there to show gratitude for the people who went before, those on this forum and others that have allowed us to move forward with our eyes wide open (thank you). It is there to hopefully inspire and inform others who are embarking on a similar journey (no journey is the same ….). It is also there to connect with like-minded people who are likely to become friends. In the words of Anthony Robbins, “The only impossible journey is the one you never begin”. We have begun. Two years ago, we had decided to move overseas for a couple of years to gain some global experience and have a bit of a family adventure. We got really close with 2 job potential offers, one in Singapore and one in Australia, and a commitment to making things happen (did I mention I am a possibilitarian?). At the last hurdle both offers fell through and I spent a day in bed feeling sorry for myself. We then attempted to start the Australian migration process by ourselves. Lack of knowledge and perhaps less of a commitment resulted in little progress. Then ……. my husband (the main applicant) turned 45 and we lost all age related points. Oh man. Learning – Use an agent. At the beginning of this year we started talking about really making a go of it. We both love South Africa and have a good life, wonderful family and a close knit group of friends. We also have a daughter who will be going to varsity in two years and a son who wants to study one day. We feel it is our responsibility to open access to equal opportunity for them to go to good universities and get great jobs. Preaching to the converted I know, but trying to build our story for when we eventually tell everyone. Note – we have not told anyone of our plans yet …. Is that normal? Journey timeline: Got all relevant unabridged birth and marriage certificates during 2014/15. Hubby wrote first IELTS test in January 2016 – missed superior points needed (got a 7.5 for writing and over 8 for everything else). I wrote TOEFL test in January 2016 – got points needed for spouse. Contracted Migrate2Oz start March 2016 – they seem very popular. Hope they have capacity for all of us. VetAssess submission for my qualifications and work experience on 29 March 2016 – no feedback as yet. Apparently they are running a month behind because of the number of submissions (big *sigh*). Engineers Australia submission for hubby (experience only as we had already received a positive qualification outcome in 2015) on 21 April – positive result received in 2 weeks (you gotta love Engineers, so efficient). Hubby wrote Pearsons PTE 3 times over a 4 week period – 3rd attempt the charm on 7 June with 88 for Listening, 90 for Reading, 84 for Speaking and 90 for Writing (Yay!!!!). Learning – do not ask for a remark with PTE. He had over 80 for everything on his second attempt, except for Speaking (never mind he is British …..). Needed 79 and got 78. We asked (and paid ….) for a remark and got exactly the same results. The test is automated and marked by a computer so unlikely to change but we thought we would take the chance. Next step: Positive Vetassess (sending out positive vibes to the universe for this to happen soon) and then our agent will submit the EOI for our 190 Visa (applying via Victoria and NSW). Feeling excited and nervous and so pleased I wrote this all down. It is cathartic
  3. Hey everyone! My name is Uli and I'm from Cape Town. I have recently decided to move back to Australia permanently, if possible. When I first moved to Australia, I lived in Melbourne, specifically Brunswick. Loved the city, but I was on a Working Holiday Visa and needed to do the mandated 88 days of rural work. I moved to King Island and worked at the King Island Dairy cheese factory. Fantastic cheese and awesome little island! Seems like there were more cows than the estimated 1000 people on the island. I ended up liking the island even more than the city, so I staying there for just about 7 months before travelling Asia. Since then, I've lived in London (didn't like it) and in Vietnam where I worked as an English teacher. I quite enjoy teaching, so I've decided to dedicate myself to that career. I am back in SA now and have applied to get my PGCE done through UNISA next year. This should have been done already but they completely screwed me last year due to the strikes. Anyway, I've got a few question and would love to get some advice from you! Does Australia recognise a PGCE from UNISA? I have searched the forum but the threads only speak about degrees. I currently have a B.Psych degree and can work as a counselor in South Africa. Counselling is on the Skilled Occupation list, so this is another option I have when applying, assuming that I would be recognised as a counselor in Australia too. Does anyone have experience with this? Which option is best or could I apply more than once using the two different routes? I also hold a German passport. Would it be easier applying with that passport or is there no difference? The Australian government seems to like Germans more as Germans are able to go over on the Working Holiday Visa. As for points, I only have 65 at present (I turn 28 tomorrow, superior English, degree). That's assuming I would get a score of or higher than 8 in the IELTS test. I am fairly confident that I'll manage a score of 8 or above as I have taught some IELTS classes. Is the test really that difficult?? I am unsure if they will see my years travelling and working as experience, so I just assumed I'd get a 0 for experience outside of Australia. I also assumed that the time spent working on my Working Holiday Visa doesn't count for anything. Are 65 points enough to be successfully invited to immigrate to Australia? I understand that this depends on the job. After doing some research, I have found that teachers are in high demands. They were, supposedly, the third highest on the list of needed professionals. I am not sure how high up the ladder counselling is. I am quite confused about the whole VATESSESS process? I understand this a skills assessment, but what exactly do you do? Sorry for the long post! Picture taken on King Island
  4. Good morning, I have a silly question, which I assume has been answered before. I've submitted an EOI for the 189, if I submit a new EOI for the 190 visa, will my 189 application be affected in any way i.e. date of effect moved to today? I just want to double and triple check as I've been on the waiting list a while and I don't want to start anew again. Thanks.
  5. Hi Guys, Great forum, helps calm the nerves to see it's a long but certainly not lonely journey. I lodged my 189 VISA on 17 May 2018 but have not received any feedback yet. Anybody else in the same boat, and is it too early to get worried?
  6. What is the situation around invitation times for a 190 visa? The SkillSelect website doesn't appear to be up to date as it still says the current invitation round is in March and the next invitation round will be on 4 April. I launched a 190 visa for NSW with 70 points (75 with SS) early April. Does anyone (agents) on here have estimated waiting times for an EOI with 70 points? Or is it more likely that I'll only get an invitation after June?
  7. DeepFriedMatt

    S 190 Visa Restrictions

    Hi everyone. It's been ages since I've been on here. This time I'm looking for some advice in relation to my sister in law. The family have just been granted their s190 Skilled Nominated permanent residency visas. They were nominated by NSW. The visa grant letter says that there are NIL visa conditions. Now sorry if this is a completely stupid question, but do they have to live and work in NSW when they arrive? We are in Melbourne and they would prefer to be here if possible. I know their visa is state nominated but there are no conditions attached and the grant letter doesn't mention NSW anywhere. Appreciate any advice anyone may have and perhaps some references to guidance issued by the Aus gov on this. Cheers Matt
  8. Hi guys Anyone aware of how I can see which states are currently sponsoring which occupations on a 190 visa? Can't find this information on Skill select... Thought I would go the 190 Accountant(General) route as it is on the Medium Term skills list, but migration agent said it is easier to go via the 190 on a Financial Manager application even though it is on the Short term skills list... Thank you!
  9. Hello For those who have submitted, or submitting in December. We've finally submitted our 189 visa and uploaded all the documents today. Good luck and keep in touch NAME VISA APPLICATION DATE CO CONTACT VISA GRANTED MvR89 1/12/2016 tbc tbc
  10. Hi guys Wanting to start the visa application process but a little confused around the 189 or 190 visa. I can get 65 points on a 189 visa under the general accountant classification - I know this is never going to be enough to secure an invitation so not worth pursuing this route. If I apply on a 190 visa I can get up to 75 points (+5 for the 190 and +5 as my wife is a financial adviser on the short-term skills list). Does anyone know the order in which they do the invitations on skill select? Ie. is it 189 until full (at a given points level), then 190 (at the same level). Or is it the other way round - ie. 190 with state sponsorship will be selected before the 189 visas? All very confusing... Thanks in advance Ed
  11. Hi everyone Our agent submitted EOIs for a 189 and 190 visa on our behalf on Tuesday and he informed me this morning that we have been invited to apply for the 190 visa. I would ask my agent but he is already enjoying his weekend and I am too impatient to wait for Monday My questions are ... 1. How does a 190 application work after after submitting the EOI for it? 2. Could this really be the invitation already or just an invitation to apply for state sponsorship or both in 1? I only have 14 days to accept so I am assuming it is not the actual visa invitation which gives you 60 days. Thanks very much
  12. Hiya, we (wife, baby 1 and I) were granted a 190 visa a few years back, which we've since activated. We're currently in SA and planning on moving to Aus early next year. Since our visa was granted a new arrival has joined the family We are now trying to add baby 2 onto our visa so would appreciate the advice from anyone who has recently done this as we are getting conflicting info from the web, and from the Aus visa agency here in CT. The visa agency tells us we need to do it online, but online is pointing us to the visa agency.... and all with different forms. To add to it all, when our 190 visa was granted we received notice that our IMMI account would then be 'destroyed' as it was no longer needed (we were apparently one of the first for this to happen to), so we can't even log in to that to try to update our details. So far the list of documents that we've been told to fill in are: Online research - - form 1229 Consent to grant an Australian visa to a child under the age of 18 years - form 40ch Sponsorship for a child to migrate to Australia - form 47ch Application for migration to Australia by a child VISA agency - -1469i Including family members in your application - form 1022 Notification of changes in circumstances Both of these seem to be entirely wrong as they look to deal with things before the visa was granted. Has anyone added done this recently, and if so how did you do it? Thanks in advance!
  13. FingersCrossed

    Keeping State Updated

    Hello everyone How is everyone doing? Sorry for not being on this forum more - been a bit busy getting ready for our activation trip as well as getting everything done in the house so we can sell. Need some advice please - we are going to activate our visa's in July this year with the plan to move over to Victoria end of next year. Do I need to let the Victoria government know of my plans or do I only need to get hold of them once we have officially moved to Australia to live? Concerned about this line in my email from them: "As per Victorian Government nomination conditions, you must keep the Skilled and Business Migration Program informed of your arrival date and address once you arrive in Australia. Upon arrival you will be required to complete surveys over the course of your two year commitment to Victoria. " I have no problem dropping them a email message or phoning them - however in the same breath I dont want to waste their time if they dont really care about activation trips. I still have to December 2021 to MOVE there according to my Visa - so am I correct in saying that I should only get hold of them once we have officially moved there? Thanks FIngersCrossed
  14. StaalBurger

    Got our visas, the fun is about to start

    Hi everybody, After what feels like forever, my girlfriend and I have been granted visas, thanks to the wonderful work of Stephen Dickson. Things just got very real for us. We look forward to making friends on the forums, asking many questions, and learning as much as possible. We're from Cape Town, and we hope to settle in Melbourne. (We got state-sponsored visas for Victoria.) I'm a software developer, and my better half works in the catering and hospitality industry. Wish us luck as we begin this new chapter.
  15. Hi all My partner and I have been dating since May 2014 and we moved in together on 1 August 2015. Unfortunately we did not co-sign a lease and the lease agreement was on my name. Since 1 August 2015 I was also out of the country for three months (April 2016 to July 2016) due to work purposes. Effectively this means out of the last 14 months we spent 11 months living together and 3 months apart. We don't have combined bank accounts but I did manage to pull together the list of evidence items below. Could you please have a look through this and let me know whether you think this is enough strong evidence to support that we are a defacto couple? Evidence: A letter we received from our insurance broker dated August 2015 advising that our household insurance policy is effective 1 August 2015 and contains both our names on the letter and our address mutual address. A letter dated August 2016 from our insurance broker confirming that we've had a combined insurance policy for household insurance as life partners and includes the address that the insurance policy covers. It's worth noting that this letter evidence the fact that we still had a combined household insurance policy even during the three months when I was in Australia for work purposes. Medical aid details, including a letter confirming that my partner has been a dependent on my medical aid since 1 September 2015 as an adult dependent in the capacity of a domestic partner; my medical aid membership certificate and my medical aid TAX certificate. Again, my partner continued to be on my medical aid even during the three months when I was in Australia for work purposes. A document containing all of my bank statements for the past 2 years which shows that my partner and I have made plenty of payments to each other throughout our relationship. Each transaction I made to him or received from him contains his name as a reference for the transaction on the bank statement. The statement's also clearly show that I made money transfers to my partner while I was in Australia for 3 months for work (he needed the money to buy groceries and stuff). A document which includes screenshots of Skype and WhatsApp showing that we stayed in regular contact throughout the period of April 2016 to July 2016 when I was in Australia for work purposes. A document containing photos of us throughout the period of our relationship. The photos are screenshots of Google Photos which is a backup facility and it shows the original date the photos were backed-up to Google Photos. Unfortunately we don't really use Facebook so we couldn't take screenshots of photos posted on Facebook. A couple of emails between me and my partner. Also a very intimate email I sent to my partner's father in March 2016 questioning his lack of involvement in his son's life. I know it's very personal, but the email made explicit reference to the fact that he is my partner and that I was worried about the impact of their strained relationship and I'm sending the email because I care for my partner. A letter from our landlord and caretaker confirming that we live together as a couple (the lease is only in my name). Signed letters written by me and my partner describing our relationship. Form 888 completed by my mother, my partner's aunt and a common friend confirming our relationship. Is this enough strong evidence? I feel like it is but I'm sure everyone here has experienced some paranoia as part of their migration process... Please let me know what you think....
  16. Hello everyone, We received an invitation to apply on Friday 10/06 and applied on Sunday the 11th. I'm wondering what the general timing for sponsorship approval is for NSW currently? Thank you!
  17. Hi all I just wanted to find out if you know what specific medical tests/procedures are performed when applying for a 189/190? I know about the following: Chest scan HIV test Hep (only for certain professions) Do you know of anything else they test? Do they inspect you naked? Lol- On another forum I read that they do ...
  18. VTRMalan

    Where do you start?

    Good day, My wife and I have decided to move to Australia after my mom passed away earlier this year. I have a brother (PR) and Sister(Citizen) in Perth as well as my Aunt, Uncle and Cousins (Citizens). We feel it is a better future for our 3 year old son. Obviously we have many questions and what to do's????? We applied for the unabridged certificates, and have received hers and my sons. Still waiting for mine and the unabridged wedding certificate. My main question is how do you go about doing a skills assesment?? Regards
  19. Good morning formanites, Has anyone else perhaps lodged their 190 application in July? Let's keep in touch. All the best, Leah
  20. After being inspired by Jordy's excellent post, The 100 step process to immigrating to Australia from South Africa, I thought I would summarise what I believe is one of the most efficient ways of obtaining a 189/190 visa. It all comes down to timing and making sure that everything that can happen in parallel does so. Even if you're not interested in expediting the process, the diagram may help to give some clarity about the requirements at various stages. I'm explaining this from the perspective of an individual but the steps are mostly similar for a family. Disclaimer: I didn't use a migration agent and I don't claim that this advice is in any way authoritative. It is merely based on my observation of the process. Your mileage may vary depending on your circumstances, points score, etc. Lets say you've made up your mind about emigrating to Australia, you've chosen to do it on a 189 or 190 visa and you know you can score enough points. Although it takes a ton of patience, there is also a lot you can do to keep things running in parallel. Have a look at the attached diagram (or download it here) - the stuff in every column can happen at the same time. Here is a detailed explanation: The first step is to obtain a skills assessment, which requires the following documents. They can all be applied for in parallel and will also be used in further stages: Apply for your unabridged birth certificate (and renew your passport if necessary). This can take a couple of weeks to several months, so it's definitely the first thing you want to do. Get references from your current and previous employers (refer to the relevant Australian assessing authority for details). It's worth doing this as early as possible in case you have trouble getting a reference out of an uncooperative ex-employer. Request your academic transcripts and get your degree translated (if applicable). The company that handles this (MIE) is pretty efficient, so it can be done in less than two weeks. While the above is in progress you can book and take the language test, e.g. IELTS. This is also something worth attending to sooner rather than later, considering that you may have to retake the test if you didn't achieve your target score and opportunities may be limited depending on your location or demand for the test. Once you have a positive skills assessment and language test result, you can lodge an Expression of Interest (EOI). While you wait to be invited to apply for a visa, you can apply for your Police Clearance Certificate. The Aus visa documentation recommends against applying for your PCC before being invited because there is no guarantee that you'll be invited before the PCC expires (12 months). However, in South Africa the PCC can take weeks or months to be issued and can be renewed fairly easily, so it's usually worth the risk. Besides, if you have enough points and your occupation isn't close to its ceiling, the time between EOI and invite can be days. Tip: If you are in Pretoria, you can save a couple of days by visiting the CRC in person to deliver your application and fetch the PCC, or alternatively you can use a courier. Don't post it. Once you have received an invitation to apply for a visa, you need to provide the following: Certified copies of all the previously mentioned documents. Medical test results (can be obtained in days). Complete form 80. Your PCC, which is hopefully ready by then. Sit back and wait for your visa grant. I hope this is helpful to anyone who has ants in their pants about getting to Aus (and those that don't). I personally regret not doing it this way, but so we learn. Please feel free to suggest improvements or correct me on any mistakes I've made. 189_190 visa application timeline.pdf
  21. Hi This morning we got our Visa Invite and State Sponsorship approval after submitting our 190 State Sponsorship Nomination application on the 29th July 2016!! I cant believe how quickly things went!! Now we need to get all our documents together so we can lodge our Visa through SkillSelect but i wanted to know if anyone knows the details of the process from here? • Once i click on the "Apply Visa" tab on SkillSelect then what happens? Will this delay our application if we don't submit all the documents etc right away? • When and how do we create the ImmiAccount? • When would we get details of our HAP ID's so we can book medicals before we pay for the Visa etc? Any help would be appreciated as my wife has a medical concern we would like to address with the doctor before we pay the fees and lodge the Visa PS. I dont know if you used an agent but perhaps you have an idea. Thanks so much!
  22. Hi This is for all who have applied or are currently busy with their 190 State Sponsorship for NSW (or any other states) I know that the times differ from the stated 12 weeks but could those who have been approved their sponsorship after the state nominated sponsorship invite please advise on how long and for what skill and also what points you each had. It would be ideal if those who are Early Childhood Teachers as that is my wife's skillset but anyone else please advise as Immitracker is not updated and there aren't many under Early Childhood Teacher either.... Ours is as follows: • Skill: 241111 - Early Childhood Teacher • Points: 55 + 5 (for state sponsorship) • State Sponsorship Invite: 29th July 2016 • State: NSW Lastly once the State Sponsorship is approved then is there anything more to do before you will get an invite to apply for the Visa or will this automatically be done after the State Sponsorship has been approved? Thanks skills much everyone
  23. Hi All Just some info and a little history so apologies for the lengthy details but we haven't really had anyone to talk to that understands our situation and frustration... My wife is an Early Childhood Teacher and the main applicant and i will be joining as her partner. We made the decision to look at Immigration in July 2015 and started by getting in contact with an agent who was referred through a Facebook group. We negotiated our fee, paid a deposit and things seemed to look good but then things took a turn when our agent wasn't responding to emails and questions. After waiting almost 2 weeks at one point i got on the phone and called the agent and the agent seemed very surprised that i had called but nonetheless was willing to answer my questions and then emailed me further information. The agent advised me that they would only reply based on what they thought was "important" which i took offence to but continued on the horrible ride... We had such a nightmare getting documents from UNISA as teachers require an Original Academic Transcript and Practical Letter for the Skills Assessment to be processed done which takes 10 weeks once the original documents are received by them in Australia. Then we had an absolute nightmare in waiting 11 months for my Unabridged Birth Certificate from Home Affairs when my wife's took less than 2 months but again we persisted and continued on our journey as we kept our hopes alive in the promise that all this would be worth it in the end. A year down the road and we have done IELTS twice and both times failed to make an 8 for writing, we have our Skills Assessment for Early Childhood Teacher which is on SOL and CSOL so we are positive that we will get an invitation however we only have 55 points in total as my wife will only have 3 years’ experience from the time she qualified in January 2017. We therefore decided to look at the 190 Visa as this would give us the additional 5 points to bring us to 60 and obviously Permanent Residency so we submitted two EOI applications as follows: • EOI 1 - Any State but selected 189 & 190 in the hope that the 2nd IELTS would have been better but submitted on the 14/05/2016 • EOI 2 - NSW and only 190 selected on the 10/07/2016 We are happy with NSW (Sydney) as we have family, friends and some support structure there but would also consider Victoria (Melbourne) i really want to know the following: 1) What are our chances of getting an invite for a state sponsorship for the additional 5 points under my wife's skill? 2) I have heard that the invitation round will open again at the end of July 2016 but does this run until the end of June 2017? 3) I have checked Immitracker and there aren't many Early Childhood Teachers on the list for 190 so i can’t really check how long the invites are taking... Could anyone give us some hope and perhaps tell us more about your similar experiences please Thank you so much, Deezo
  24. Hi I am about to submit the supporting documents for 190 NSW State Sponsorship and have an URGENT question...!!! They ask "Do you have any dependents?" so does this apply to a Partner/Spouse or only Children? Thank you Dependent Question - State Sponsorship.docx
  25. Hi Guys Have started a new thread for Visa applications lodged in December 2015. Good luck to all
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