Recruiters

[Elizma]

Can you please recommend some recruitment agencies in Perth that we can get in contact with. This will be mostly for accounting and IT positions... not sure if these 2 occupations are in demand in Perth. We are aware of Seek and Indeed as well. 

[Titus]

I am unfortunatley unable to recommend any recruitment agencies in WA as I haven't had much luck with any of them....

 

I would like to point out Linkedin though.... 90% of the jobs that I've been interested in (IT) this past while have been listed there....

 

Also, consider looking at jobs.wa.gov.au for public sector positions... However, there is apparently a recruitment freeze looming so be quick!...

[monsta]

13 hours ago, Elizma said:

Can you please recommend some recruitment agencies in Perth that we can get in contact with.

 

In my experience is not like it is in South Africa... Its waay to easy to apply for jobs on seek, linkedin, etc... A recruiter puts out a job advert once in a while, he gets dozens of CVs. He adds them to his content management system. 

 

When a company may/or may not  be looking for a new hire, he calls up the people in his CMS and asks if he can represent them for the job  (thats a legal thing). He then passes the CVs on to the company. 

 

A recruiter may interview you, but its usually because the company who he wants to submit your CV too requires it. 

[Riekie]

LinkedIn is definitely a popular resource for finding talent.  More and more employers are now using LinkedIn, so get/update your LinkedIn profile for sure!

 

It also works to find companies in your field who operates in WA and go on their websites to find available roles and apply direct.  It is often hidden in a link at the bottom of the home page. It could be under something like "careers", "our team" or even "contact us" with possibly further links.  It's a frustration sometimes, but you're dealing with the company direct. 

 

 

[Nev]

Yep, to agree, It is not like in SA,

 

In SA you call the recruiter and they look for jobs for you,

Here if a recruiter has a job posted somewhere you send in your CV, and a computer looks for keywords in it, if your CV doesn't have the required words or phrases the recruiter never even looks at it, it gets saved to possibly be used in future.

Unless you are in a high demand job you will be part of a really big pile of CV's that are applying, and what is considered high demand is different here to SA.

Recruiters are generally not interested in talking to you unless you are a prime candidate for a job, they will just ask you to send your CV in.

 

So, 

Get your CV up to speed with what is required to get into a company here, it needs to be customised for each job you apply for, literally create a new CV with the experience and abilities sections focusing on the items that they are looking for with examples of why you fit, if you don't do it you will fail the computer test and loose the position to someone who does do it.

Keep it short, they don't care that you are a stamp collector and won the spelling bee, it needs to be a few pages and really on point, south African CV's are comprehensive, here they are concise.

Get linked in up and running, as said above look for industries you have worked in and cold call them, try and contact companies direct to short circuit the recruiters and deal with people.

 

Lastly, companies will generally not talk to anyone not yet in the country, there are a lot of applicants and someone who may or may not have drama's getting here and set up and ready to work is not worth the trouble.

 

It can be done and you will get there, it just takes perseverance.

 

 

 

[Riekie]

On 07/05/2017 at 11:07 PM, Nev said:

 

Lastly, companies will generally not talk to anyone not yet in the country, there are a lot of applicants and someone who may or may not have drama's getting here and set up and ready to work is not worth the trouble.

 

 

 

Unless you're highly skilled and in serious demand, this is unfortunately the case.  However, if you do already have a visa, it does help.  Be sure to tell them a definite date you'll be in Australia as they generally need a commitment or they'll move on to the next person. 

[monsta]

Many employers put recruiters in the same box as real estate agents, sales people, etc..

 

Now, recruiters know this. So, a recruiter will list a job for a plumber on seek. They will get a few dozen applicants. Then the recruiter will call up prospective employers and ask them if they need staff. The company may say, " we are considering getting in a full time plumber, but we are not sure yet ". So, the recruiter snaps into gear and goes through his CVs. He rings up the applicants and asks them if he can represent them to the company ( a legal thing ). 

 

Now, the company may choose to go ahead with the job, or it may not. If they decide not to, the recruiter is unlikely to call the applicants back. But if the company is willing to go ahead, the recruiter will push the applicant to be the first one the company interviews. The reason is most companies will only interview 2 or 3 people for each role. So, by getting his applicants in first, the recruiter increases his chances.

 

Now, the CV that the recruiter chooses  is the one that most closely matches the client's job description. The recruiter probably has no idea what a plumber does... so he simply searches his database of CVs for the closest match to the company's job description.

 

That's why we often recommend here that new migrants 

 

1) Do research on how much they should be earning. Asking too little or too much is a bad idea. You can filter salary ranges on seek, you could ask recruiters when they ring. What is the salary range on that job?  or  "what was the company expecting to pay a bit less than what I asked for? "

2) Live in an area with an easy commute to where the jobs are. e.g. if you are in IT you want to be within an hour of Surrey Hills and the CBD. If you work in a warehouse, you would want to be near Huntingwood. The most common reason people give for leaving is a long commute. Recruiters may know what a plumber actually does, but they know he won't enjoy a 2 hour commute. Again, seek.com.au can give you a rough idea of where most of the jobs are.

3) Match your CV to the keywords on job adverts on seek.com.au. For example, if you have done a bit of industrial plumbing and its asked for a lot on seek.. then make sure you high lite that on your CV. You are not trying to be the worlds best at industrial plumbing jobs... its just to make sure you CV comes up more often when the recruiter is going keyword searches.

 

 

[bbop]

We skipped the whole recruiter thing as you never hear back from them and sent our cv straight to the companies by googling them. Regional works best. We received a job offer before arriving, but we did have a visa.They were not advertising for anyone, but decided they can do with another person.