DeSwardts Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 HiCan someone please confirm or explain something...On Ausikaners FB page there is a lady that said she needs to return next week to SA as the 28 days to get a job on her 190 visa is expiring...She said that when you do your EOI for state sponsor and you get an invite from WA you need to proof a job offer or the invite expires. I really didnt know this. Thought we can go over and look for a job there without limits on the time we need to find one? I really thought the only restriction on a 190 is that you must stay in that state for 2 years. And off course have sufficient funds to support yourself for a few months.Can someone please confirm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaeden Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 I'm really didn't know that so would also like some clarity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KalahariHarry Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 It doesnt sound right... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadEnoughofJuju Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 There used to be a condition on the 457 temp work visa that if you lost your job that you had 28 days to find a sponsor you would have to leave the country. That has now changed to 90 days.The 190 is a state sponsorship permanent residence visa which means the only condition you have to stick to is staying in the state that sponsored you for 2 years.Not sure where she's getting the 28 days from on a 190. Maybe she has 28 of the 90 left and meant to write 457. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSwardts Posted April 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 Thanks for the replies. I'll double check with my agent on Tuesday. She specifically said "the 190 is a glorified 457"...Just glad I'm not the only one finding it odd... just when i thought i understand all the different types of visas I read that. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadEnoughofJuju Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 A 190 is far from a glorified 457. They couldn't be more opposite. 457 is temp work visa with no medicare, Centrelink or any of the other benefits that come with a 190PR visa. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSwardts Posted April 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 (edited) Ok. Reply from an agent... (Afrikaans)...Die 189 visa is n onvoorwaardelike PR visa, so jy kan in enige werk in Aus werk. Die 190 is n voorwaardelike PR (State sponsored) visa wat vereis dat jy vir 2 jaar in die sponsoring staat werk. Sommige State wil bewys he van n werks offer voor hulle die State Sponsored visa toestaan. Sommige beroepe is nie op die hoof skilled lyste van die State nie, maar bv op hulle sch2 lyste, wat vereis dat n werks offer bewys gegee moet word, of dat die aansoeker reeds in die staat werk. So elke staat het hulle eie reels en vereistes en verder vir elke beroep op die spesifieke staat se lys. Sommige beroepe is high availability, sommige limited, sommige nie, maar die lyste verander gedurig. Sommige beroepe het minimum IELTS vereistes vir die State Sponsorships..... Dus vind uit wat die vereistes is vir jou beroep op n spesifieke Staat se lys. Beide die 189 en 190 visas is General Skilled Migration en dus punte gebaseer. Vir die 190 kry jy ekstra punte (5 vir die 190 visa, en 10 vir die voorlopige 489 visa). Edited April 17, 2014 by DeSwardts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeTMI Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 HiCan someone please confirm or explain something...On Ausikaners FB page there is a lady that said she needs to return next week to SA as the 28 days to get a job on her 190 visa is expiring...She said that when you do your EOI for state sponsor and you get an invite from WA you need to proof a job offer or the invite expires. I really didnt know this. Thought we can go over and look for a job there without limits on the time we need to find one?I really thought the only restriction on a 190 is that you must stay in that state for 2 years. And off course have sufficient funds to support yourself for a few months.Can someone please confirm?I have not seen the post, and so do know know the details surrounding it however I suspect that the person who posted this has not got a SC 190 visa. Rather they are hoping to apply for a SC190 and they are still in the earlier stages in this case applying for state sponsorship. The different states often have additional requirements in considering whether they will offer an individual sponsorship. This may vary dependent on the occupation. In this case if they are looking at WA in order to be considered for sponsorship for some occupations you need to provide an employment contract/proof of a job offer. So from the sounds of it the individual has applied to WA, been offered sponsorship on condition that they meet the WA requirements for sponsorship of this occupation. But that they have not been able to meet this requirement therefore cannot obtain state sponsorship that would be required before they could lodge a SC190 visa application. Hope that makes sense.So to clarify the SC190 is a permanent residence visa, and if an individual has a SC190 visa there is no requirement for them to find a job within a certain period of time or leave Australia. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rikamarie Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 We are on a 190 visa and no there is no such thing. We arrived in Australia without any jobs. My husband only started working 2 weeks ago (after looking for a job for months). So don't worry about it and don't believe everything you read or hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBrough Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 A 190 is the same in all respects as a 189 beside the 2 year MORAL obligation to work and live in the state that granted the State Sponsorship. Someone is a little confused! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSwardts Posted April 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 Just to give you an update. (and answer my own question ) - after extensive reading and searching....This is the story behind the 190 with restrictions...OCCUPATION ON SCHEDULE 2 OF THE WESTERN AUSTRALIAN SKILLED MIGRATION OCCUPATION LIST HAS THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS:Subclass 190 visa: Have a contract of employment for full-time employment for at least 12 months in Western Australia in the nominated (or closely related) occupation.ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS FOR APPLICANTS LIVING OUTSIDE WESTERN AUSTRALIA IN ANOTHER AUSTRALIAN STATE OR TERRITORYSubclass 190 visa: Have a contract of employment for full-time employment for at least 12 months in Western Australia in the nominated (or closely related) occupation.ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS FOR APPLICANTS LIVING OUTSIDE WESTERN AUSTRALIA (IN ANOTHER AUSTRALIAN STATE OR TERRITORY OR IN ANOTHER COUNTRY)Subclass 190 visa: Provide evidence showing sufficient funds to cover settlement costs and living costs for at least three months.Therefor (how i understand it)- If you are on schedule 2 occupation, it might be a problem. You might need a job first.See the schedules here: http://www.migration.wa.gov.au/skilledmigration/Pages/Occupationsindemand.aspx- If you are applying for 190 WA from outside Australia (another country) on a Schedule 1 occupation, there shouldn't be a problem...The pdf with restrictions can be found at: http://www.migration.wa.gov.au/SiteCollectionDocuments/skilled_migration_criteria_2013-2014%20(4).pdfAnd a link to all the states different requirements:http://skillselect.govspace.gov.au/2013/04/26/i-am-seeking-state-or-territory-government-nomination/However, the link to WA skilled is not working, try http://www.migration.wa.gov.au/skilledmigration/Pages/Occupationsindemand.aspxThere. Now I can peacefully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieWishes Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 I applied for a 190 from WA (although my 189 came through so WA immediately suspended the application) and never was it mentioned that you needed a job offer. Unless that's new (some states require you,to prove job vacancies in your field)? Only restriction was to remain in WA?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4viljoens Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 I am thinking of applying for the 190 Visa, South Australia or Queensland. I am worried that I won't get the score 8 in all four sections of the IELTS and therefore we won't have enough points to qualify for the 189 Visa (short 5 points, based on my previous IELTS results). Is it possible to apply for sponsorship from more than one state? What is the turnaround time on such an application? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeTMI Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 I applied for a 190 from WA (although my 189 came through so WA immediately suspended the application) and never was it mentioned that you needed a job offer. Unless that's new (some states require you,to prove job vacancies in your field)? Only restriction was to remain in WA??It depends upon the occupation you are nominating - some occupations require you to have a job offer before WA will consider sponsoring you.The different states/territories set their own criteria as to any extra requirements and it can vary by occupation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCabes Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 I ran into this after Tee posted about the updated SA skills list.To simplify: in order to get a 190 state sponsorship, you need an offer of employment/12 month contract if your skills are listed as a schedule 2 occupation.To be honest, I don't think this is a bad move. These are jobs where they generally already have enough skilled people, so it benefits everyone if you have a job offer or a year's contract - yes, this makes it much harder, but I would think that employers would take this into consideration and *possibly* provide conditional job offers - ie, if you get the 190, you have a job with them, if not, the offer is null and void? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1982 Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 Can someone please clarify - this is the first time I have heard that one may need a 12 month contract to secure a 190 for WA if your occupation is listed under schedule 2. We have applied through an agent and our CO was assigned in Feb 2014, only medicals were requested in order to process the grant. Can the CO now come back and say we have to obtain a 12 month contract, or have we passed that stage where that might happen?? I cannot bare the thought of being told that now. We are on the schedule 2 list. Or................is it that you may need a 12 month contract prior to being invited by the state to apply??? Which means we are in the safe zone?? Surely our CO would have informed us of this had it been a requirement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JpHey Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 Quick one I was asked to prove liquid fund to WA for SS190 anyone else done this? Seems very uncommon for them to ask? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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